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| Re: Google Summer of Code [message #25700 is a reply to message #25695 ] |
Mon, 08 March 2010 17:56   |
andrei_natanael
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U++ port to KDE/Qt
The goal is to provide a library* which wraps Qt theming API and draw U++ widgets using it. Right now U++ is using gtk+ theming API which make applications look ugly under KDE and gtk+ libs have to be available in order for application to run. This library will make U++ non-dependent on a theming API but rather selecting proper theming engine at runtime so application look will be changed based on running context - KDE(Qt based) or Gnome(gtk+ based). If Qt or gtk+ don't exists and user have only X11 server U++ will use it's own theming API for drawing widgets.
Experience needed
Some U++ knowledge, some Qt knowledge.
Andrei
(* Package in U++ terms)
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| Re: Google Summer of Code [message #25705 is a reply to message #25700 ] |
Mon, 08 March 2010 21:29 |
 koldo
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Hello Andrei
Thank you for your proposal. I would ask you just more details, about three lines about it.
Do not think this text is a commitment. Final project definition will change as it comes from an agreement between mentor and student.
Mirek
I am agree with you. We can talk about it tomorrow Tuesday. In advance you can propose some ideas and think where to locate "ideas" page in main page.
Best regards
Koldo
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| Re: Google Summer of Code [message #25714 is a reply to message #25711 ] |
Tue, 09 March 2010 08:53 |
koldo
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Hello all
Two possible ideas:
- Video Player Control
This control would integrate ffmpeg video decoding and sdl to visualize .avi, .mpg, ... video files.
It would need to work using ffmpeg, sdl so gcc/mingw knowledge and Upp knowledge would help.
- Web Browser Control
This control would integrate a web browser into a control. Possibly the best option would be to use webkit.
It would need to work using webkit so gcc/mingw knowledge and Upp knowledge would help.
In all projects if external libraries are used it would be necessary that the license would be BSD or similar.
Similarly it would be important that all projects would be implemented in Windows and GNU/Linux leaving open the possibility to, in a future, be implemented in OSX.
Best regards
Koldo
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| Re: Google Summer of Code [message #25736 is a reply to message #25695 ] |
Tue, 09 March 2010 22:32 |
koldo
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Hello all
I cannot be in the meeting.
However I can help in doing the ideas web and the questionnaire.
Please send a post after the meeting to know what to do.
Thank you.
Best regards
Koldo
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| Re: Google Summer of Code [message #25746 is a reply to message #25742 ] |
Wed, 10 March 2010 09:40 |
koldo
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| luzr wrote on Wed, 10 March 2010 09:01 |
Well, I think we have enough themes now.
Perhaps somebody now should go and create these pages?
Mirek
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Hello Mirek
I can do the ideas page.
About the place to put it, in a long term I would add a "Developer page" in the left side menu, and GSOC would be inside it.
However for now I see two possibilities:
1. From Andrei
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Regarding GSOC Ideas page it may be located on (upp-mirror)googlecode.org
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The three projects I have seen (see previous post) have a wiki page with GSOC inside it.
2. To put GSOC ideas in "Status & Roadmap".
Please answer me which of them, or other.
Best regards
Koldo
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| Re: Google Summer of Code [message #25750 is a reply to message #25749 ] |
Wed, 10 March 2010 11:52 |
koldo
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| luzr wrote on Wed, 10 March 2010 11:34 |
Whatever works for you the best.
Another option is "hidden" webpage in www.ultimatepp.org.
Mirek
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Hello Mirek
At least from this Friday the page should be visible and convincing as if Upp proposal would be approved by Google, many students would try to see our projects and contact us.
Best regards
Koldo
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| Re: Google Summer of Code [message #25771 is a reply to message #25695 ] |
Thu, 11 March 2010 09:33 |
koldo
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Hello all
Draft page is included from Status & Roadmap although it is not online now so you would have to download it and run uppweb to see it in advance.
To improve the quality of the proposals I have included
- Difficulty
- Proposed roadmap including internal or external references to previous works
It is important to fill those fields because it demonstrates GSOC administrators that our proposals are well prepared.
Today I have fixed some details but please post whatever you have found.
Best regards
Koldo
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| Re: Google Summer of Code [message #25793 is a reply to message #25695 ] |
Thu, 11 March 2010 22:26 |
koldo
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Hello Andrei
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This is a reason why i like GSOC Ideas page to be in upp-mirror wiki and not in Upp site. We have to wait for sync and modifications may do only people which have uppweb configured.
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Both wiki and uppweb need permission and Upp site could be updated more frequently as server is most the time idle.
However IMHO web is enough big for now. I would only:
- Follow with translations
- Improve and standardize page look
IMO I would add the majority of new contents in Wiki pages.
I thought Google Code wiki had too much simple look. However after checking this http://code.google.com/p/gps-gimp-paint-studio/wiki/Introduc tion perhaps we can have a nice looking wiki.
Best regards
Koldo
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| Re: Google Summer of Code [message #25799 is a reply to message #25793 ] |
Fri, 12 March 2010 10:30 |
andrei_natanael
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About GSOC Idea page, doesn't have mentors for each idea to be listed there? Who are u++ mentors? Until now i guess Mirek and Koldo.
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| Re: Google Summer of Code [message #25800 is a reply to message #25799 ] |
Fri, 12 March 2010 10:48 |
koldo
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| andrei_natanael wrote on Fri, 12 March 2010 10:30 |
About GSOC Idea page, doesn't have mentors for each idea to be listed there? Who are u++ mentors? Until now i guess Mirek and Koldo.
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Hello Andrei
Some open source projects that apply to Gsoc have now mentors but others do not.
The Gsoc mentorship also requires between other requirements:
- Time: The student will work full day and the mentor has to support him/her
- Interested: You as mentor have to love the project
I think the mentorship would have to be very public using Forum and Wiki actively. This way the student would receive support not only from the mentor but from the full community.
Also the mentorship could not be directly related to Gsoc. It could be just part or our strategy with new and energetic contributors. IMO it is key to develop a clear "Welcome Manual" that a newbie with ideas, skills and time can read to begin fast in U++.
Best regards
Koldo
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| Re: Google Summer of Code [message #25852 is a reply to message #25695 ] |
Mon, 15 March 2010 21:49 |
koldo
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Hello all
Ultimate++ project application to Google Summer of Code has been submitted.
During this week Google will decide which projects will participate in this program.
The competence is awesome: all main Open Source projects apply to GSoC. And the number of available slots is limited.
Outside U++ I have heard an opinion saying (in simplified version) that GSoC is not interesting because long term supporters are convinced with the project. And convinced people works for free (like you, and you, and you, ...  ).
Well, I think this opinion is oversimplified because (in simplified version ):
- GSoC is a world wide program. If anybody is concerned about PR (public relations) well, many of the BIG projects are in.
- Students apply for it because:
-- It is excellent for their curriculum
-- They get about 5k$
- We want this great students working full time for our project. And we have to convince them because we want them inside, also after GSoC.
- This is not granted for free: We have to work a lot in, at least:
-- Students selection
-- Project management
-- Mentorship (a lot of work)
However, the good thing of this is that we have to develop a system that:
- coming from the very first day of a person in U++ to be the new Mirek 
- will let this skilled, polite, organized, easy going and handsome person to get it in a finite deadline
- arranging the project and the community as the same thing.
Because GSoC lasts few months.
But U++ is opened 365/24:
- to give all programmers the best tools
- and to receive
--- more or less skilled people
--- with more or less time
--- but feeling that here there is something worth spending their valuable time.
Well, and that is great.
Best regards
Koldo
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| Re: Google Summer of Code [message #25865 is a reply to message #25852 ] |
Tue, 16 March 2010 20:40 |
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Very excited News!
Sorry for my delay, I was busy with OCP(Oracle Certified Professional) exams.
And now go back to u++!
My new intentions is:
1. To integrate open ocilib(http://orclib.sourceforge.net/) in u++
2. Finish to test and integrate google v8 for runtime developing
3. Finish to integrate xlslib to u++
4. Finish to make a variant of Plugin framework
If is other more important task lets put by importance and complete it!
Best regards, Ion Lupascu (tojocky)
[Updated on: Tue, 16 March 2010 21:36]
Ion Lupascu.
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| Re: Google Summer of Code [message #25905 is a reply to message #25903 ] |
Thu, 18 March 2010 22:37 |
koldo
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Yes it is
We have received this afternoon a very kind answer from Google informing us that this year it has not been possible to accept us and encouraging us to reapply net year.
The good thing is that this releases us from the pressure of this program now.
From today we have one full year to prepare us for next application.
In addition all the organization we are going to setup will be useful from the beginning. To be in GSoC will be a sweet cake but we will begin to eat cookies shortly
Now more than ever we all are U++.
[Updated on: Thu, 18 March 2010 22:44]
Best regards
Koldo
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| Re: Google Summer of Code [message #26017 is a reply to message #25905 ] |
Fri, 26 March 2010 08:45 |
koldo
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Hello all
GSoC organization has been very kind again by sending us some advices about our application:
The ideas list was not very well fleshed out. Especially for organizations that have not participated previously, they like to:
- see links to further documentation in each idea
- contact information for a potential mentor
- links to source code for students to check out, etc.
We did a good job of classifying each idea according to difficulty, but all of our ideas were either medium or difficult, which can be a barrier to GSoC students who do not already have knowledge of U++.
They recommend beefing up our ideas list and to look for ways to take the experience of onboard new contributors to include it in next year GSoC application.
Best regards
Koldo
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