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Re: U++ 2017 beta [message #47194 is a reply to message #47151]

Wed, 28 December 2016 13:01

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My review of the beta continues...

So one of the test cases (we use UT a lot) crashes with MINGW. MINGW is more clunky than MSC, but tends to be correct, so I have faith that it is something on our side that can be fixed.

But in the meantime, I installed MSC to see how it fares, since while MINGW compiles well, there is case of GDB crashing and one of a testcase crashing.

I have no idea what MSC you use for the "new" Core, the site is weirdly scarce on info on this (no new comer shall ever find it), but I have used Visual Studio 2015 since I first tried the new C++1x port and it works well. The official build method setup also picks it up (after 5 minutes) and mislabels it MSC15 (it is 14, reported this in the past). Visual Studio 2016/MSC15 has been moved back to 2017 and even if it is released in 2017, with bureaucracy an inertia, you can't expect a lot of people to upgrade to it before 2020. So MSC14 should be properly detected. And it is not, because it misses some include paths.

After I fix it by hand, everything works, including the testcases.

After playing around with it for a day or so, it looks good and stable.

On a sidenote, not related to the beta, Xmlize can be ridiculously slow. Here is are some outputs:

Compilation finished in 0.256 seconds. 0.072 seconds (28.162%) spent on update.
Compilation finished in 0.093 seconds. 0.077 seconds (81.781%) spent on update.

That is 0.160 used on up a single line:
for (int i = 0; i < sources.GetCount(); i++) {
ZPackage& pak = *sources[i].Package;
StoreAsXMLFile(pak, "cache", pak.OutPath + "\\cache.xml");
}

The StoreAsXMLFile saves a whooping 36.2 KiB of XML on disk in 0.160 seconds. Anything above 0.010 I find unacceptable, so I think it is time to say goodbye to Xmlize.

So In conclusion:
- The quality of the code in the packages is at its usual high standards and U++ is a great library
- installing and ease of getting started is at the same all time low it has been for a year now
- MINGW will never be good until Mirek switches over to it fully for at least 2 months, not touching MSC in this period.

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		Re: U++ 2017 beta By: mirek on Thu, 22 December 2016 23:00
		Re: U++ 2017 beta By: MrSarup on Sun, 25 December 2016 08:02
		Re: U++ 2017 beta By: Klugier on Sun, 25 December 2016 21:29
		Re: U++ 2017 beta By: omari on Mon, 26 December 2016 13:36
		Re: U++ 2017 beta By: mr_ped on Fri, 23 December 2016 04:02
		Re: U++ 2017 beta By: koldo on Fri, 23 December 2016 10:28
		Re: U++ 2017 beta By: MrSarup on Sun, 25 December 2016 09:23
		Re: U++ 2017 beta By: MrSarup on Sun, 25 December 2016 09:52
		Re: U++ 2017 beta By: mirek on Sun, 25 December 2016 10:02
		Re: U++ 2017 beta By: mirek on Sun, 25 December 2016 09:52
		Re: U++ 2017 beta By: MrSarup on Sun, 25 December 2016 11:24
		Re: U++ 2017 beta By: cbpporter on Sun, 25 December 2016 12:18
		Re: U++ 2017 beta By: mirek on Sun, 01 January 2017 21:51
		Re: U++ 2017 beta By: cbpporter on Wed, 28 December 2016 13:01
		Re: U++ 2017 beta By: MrSarup on Wed, 28 December 2016 13:31
		Re: U++ 2017 beta By: mirek on Wed, 28 December 2016 16:53
		Re: U++ 2017 beta By: cbpporter on Wed, 28 December 2016 19:40
		Re: U++ 2017 beta By: MrSarup on Wed, 28 December 2016 20:53
		Re: U++ 2017 beta By: Mindtraveller on Wed, 28 December 2016 23:12
		Re: U++ 2017 beta By: Klugier on Wed, 28 December 2016 23:15
		Re: U++ 2017 beta By: amrein on Thu, 29 December 2016 08:44
		Re: U++ 2017 beta By: mirek on Sun, 01 January 2017 21:54
		Re: U++ 2017 beta By: mirek on Sun, 01 January 2017 22:03
		Re: U++ 2017 beta By: MrSarup on Mon, 02 January 2017 06:09
		Re: U++ 2017 beta By: mirek on Mon, 02 January 2017 22:31
		Re: U++ 2017 beta By: mirek on Mon, 02 January 2017 21:42
		Re: U++ 2017 beta By: cbpporter on Tue, 03 January 2017 11:21
		Re: U++ 2017 beta By: amrein on Tue, 03 January 2017 14:22
		Re: U++ 2017 beta By: mirek on Tue, 03 January 2017 14:59
		Re: U++ 2017 beta By: amrein on Wed, 04 January 2017 01:04
		Re: U++ 2017 beta By: MrSarup on Wed, 04 January 2017 07:28
		Re: U++ 2017 beta By: mirek on Wed, 04 January 2017 07:59
		Re: U++ 2017 beta By: mirek on Wed, 04 January 2017 08:03
		Re: U++ 2017 beta By: cbpporter on Wed, 04 January 2017 08:08
		Re: U++ 2017 beta By: MrSarup on Wed, 04 January 2017 08:47
		Re: U++ 2017 beta By: MrSarup on Wed, 04 January 2017 09:00
		Re: U++ 2017 beta By: cbpporter on Wed, 04 January 2017 10:06
		Re: U++ 2017 beta By: mirek on Wed, 04 January 2017 10:28
		Re: U++ 2017 beta By: cbpporter on Wed, 04 January 2017 11:19
		Re: U++ 2017 beta By: Tom1 on Wed, 04 January 2017 12:32
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		Re: U++ 2017 beta By: cbpporter on Wed, 04 January 2017 14:02
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		Re: U++ 2017 beta By: Tom1 on Wed, 04 January 2017 15:29
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		Re: U++ 2017 beta By: cbpporter on Wed, 04 January 2017 15:38
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