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NEW: generic Toupel grouper
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description: sometimes its cool to group things together in an easy manner, especially when wroking with the template containers. to build a grouping container over and over again each time for different purposes, just for classes that would have the parts public anyway,is odd. say you want to have a vector that simply contains a 2-tupel of values. maybe some measurements consisting of two values at once, or anything that logically belongs together but does not need any abstraction or scope hiding. a normal container cant do it. Vector<float, float> vi; //would resemble VectorMap. you just need to quickly define and access 2 things at once in a container and want to have sth like Vector<Duo<int, int> > vi; ... vi[i].t1 = 123; vi[i].t2 = 234; this looks good and is handy. so here comes some helpers to do that template<class T> class Solo { public: typedef Solo<T> CLASSNAME; Solo(const T & _t) : t(_t) {} Solo() {} operator T & () { return t; } operator const T & () const { return t; } T t; }; template<class T1, class T2> class Duo { public: typedef Duo<T1, T2> CLASSNAME; Duo(const T1 & _t1, const T2 & _t2) : t1(_t1), t2(_t2) {} Duo() {} operator T1 & () { return t1; } operator const T1 & () const { return t1; } operator T2 & () { return t2; } operator const T2 & () const { return t2; } T1 t1; T2 t2; }; template<class T1, class T2, class T3> class Trio { public: typedef Trio<T1, T2, T3> CLASSNAME; Trio(const T1 & _t1, const T2 & _t2, const T3 & _t3) : t1(_t1), t2(_t2), t3(_t3) {} Trio() {} operator T1 & () { return t1; } operator const T1 & () const { return t1; } operator T2 & () { return t2; } operator const T2 & () const { return t2; } operator T3 & () { return t3; } operator const T3 & () const { return t3; } T1 t1; T2 t2; T3 t3; }; template<class T1, class T2, class T3, class T4> class Quartett { public: typedef Quartett<T1, T2, T3, T4> CLASSNAME; Quartett(const T1 & _t1, const T2 & _t2, const T3 & _t3, const T4 & _t4) : t1(_t1), t2(_t2), t3(_t3), t4(_t4) {} Quartett() {} oper…
creator: kohait00
date: 2010-08-12T14:03:51-00:00

Re: NEW: generic Toupel grouper
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description: or, which would be better maybe, to have Two<T1, T2>, Three<T1,T2,T3>, Four<T1,T2,T3,T4> as analoge to One<T>.. but sometimes that much of complexity is not needed
creator: kohait00
date: 2010-08-12T14:07:16-00:00

Re: NEW: generic Toupel grouper
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description: Hello Kohait This does not seem bad. However is it worthwhile the added code to support it?, as we always can insert in a Vector any class or struct.
creator: koldo
date: 2010-08-12T14:14:33-00:00

Re: NEW: generic Toupel grouper
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description: ofcorse..but imagine, you need to setup a new class each time you simply just want to group/pack some things together without further class implications / namespaces / accessscopes. i imagine this to be quite often the case. (Point_ is not quite the same but is a small example of grouping things) but here comes another option, which is maybe better...donnow. template<class T> class O { public: typedef O<T> CLASSNAME; O(const T & _t) : t(_t) {} O() {} operator T & () { return t; } operator const T & () const { return t; } T t; }; template<class T> class O1 : public O<T> {}; template<class T1, class T2> class O2 : public O<T1>, public O<T2> {}; template<class T1, class T2, class T3> class O3 : public O<T1>, public O<T2>, public O<T3> {}; template<class T1, class T2, class T3, class T4> class O4 : public O<T1>, public O<T2> , public O<T3> , public O<T4> {}; beeing able to access stuff like this, which is more clear O2<int, float> o2; o2.O<int>::t = 123; o2.O<float>::t = 23.10f;
creator: kohait00
date: 2010-08-12T14:58:51-00:00

Re: NEW: generic Toupel grouper
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creator: koldo
date: 2010-08-12T15:03:18-00:00

Re: NEW: generic Toupel grouper
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description: even got another idea.. template<class T1, class T2> class Two : public One<T1>, public One<T2> {}; template<class T1, class T2, class T3> class Three : public One<T1>, public One<T2>, public One<T3> {}; template<class T1, class T2, class T3, class T4> class Four : public One<T1>, public One<T2>, public One<T3>, public One<T4> {}; EDIT: too quick forgot a type Four<int, char, float, unsigned> four; four.One<int>::Create() = 123;
creator: kohait00
date: 2010-08-12T15:04:33-00:00

Re: NEW: generic Toupel grouper
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description: a bit more usable template<class T> class O { public: typedef O<T> CLASSNAME; O(const T & _t) : t(_t) {} O() {} operator T & () { return t; } operator const T & () const { return t; } T& operator=(const T & _t) { t = _t; return t; } bool operator ==(const T& _t) const { return (t==_t); } T t; };
creator: kohait00
date: 2010-08-12T15:27:40-00:00

Re: NEW: generic Toupel grouper
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description: Hi kohait00, I've got two questions 1) Does it work when you need to group several values of same type? E.g. Three<String,int,int>. I have a suspicion that the overloaded operators for int wouldn't make much sense than... 2) What is the advantage of your touples to using simple Vector<Value>? The later might have bit more verbose interface, but on the other hand it offers variable element count. Best regards, Honza
creator: dolik.rce
date: 2010-08-12T18:14:51-00:00

Re: NEW: generic Toupel grouper
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description: hey doli, you are absolutely right with your point 1) but in this case Duo<int,int> work, becasue there the items are named explicitely. de advantage is, that zou dont always want to store all data inside Value, but as an explicit tzype. but using same tzpe one might think of using Duo<String, Vector<int> >, grouping it it is still a development, so expect some changes here. but the idea is to loosely group stuff together without the need to create a whole new class for it.. its maybe considred a class template, instead of a template class. a public members class. cheers
creator: kohait00
date: 2010-08-12T18:58:12-00:00

Re: NEW: generic Toupel grouper
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description: Actually, I think this feature is somewhat missing in U++ (and is quite common in other frameworks). But I am quite sceptical about those cast overloads too. Imo, something as simple as template<class T1, class T2> struct Pair { Pair(const T1 & _t1, const T2 & _t2) : t1(_t1), t2(_t2) {} Pair() {} T1 first; T2 second; }; would solve most of usage scenarios where I was eventually missing tuples. Maybe first/second are bad names though... Hm, maybe, what about template<class T1, class T2> struct AB { AB(const T1 & _t1, const T2 & _t2) : t1(_t1), t2(_t2) {} AB() {} T1 a; T2 b; }; ? Here is boost's take on the issue: http://www.boost.org/doc/libs/1_34_0/libs/tuple/doc/tuple_us ers_guide.html IMO a little bit overengineered...
creator: mirek
date: 2010-08-13T08:53:29-00:00

Re: NEW: generic Toupel grouper
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description: simple is most times better good option. maybe AB, ABC is not 'verbose' enough (as of readability of code, but tfcorse a short option)
creator: kohait00
date: 2010-08-13T08:58:24-00:00

Re: NEW: generic Toupel grouper
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description: Quote: But I am quite sceptical about those cast overloads too. its just for easy handling, while opening doors to implicit casted assigns to wrong parameter (dont know if compiler would warn in such case, which operator() to take) can be left out i think. if user uses it, he can type some 2 more letters and be on safe side. if he really needs this behaviour, polimophism is a good thing..
creator: kohait00
date: 2010-08-13T09:16:28-00:00

Re: NEW: generic Toupel grouper
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description: i found AB, ABC etc. beeing difficult to use, because wingdi.h already defines ABC. ive looked into the boost stuff, it's really a bit over the line. beeing on the secure side and type one letter is cool enough.. so this is a proposal, short enough not to blow Others.h template<class T1, class T2> class Duo { public: Duo(const T1 & _a, const T2 & _b) : a(_a), b(_b) {} Duo() {} T1 a; T2 b; }; template<class T1, class T2, class T3> class Trio { public: Trio(const T1 & _a, const T2 & _b, const T3 & _c) : a(_a), b(_b), c(_c) {} Trio() {} T1 a; T2 b; T3 c; }; template<class T1, class T2, class T3, class T4> class Quartett { public: Quartett(const T1 & _a, const T2 & _b, const T3 & _c, const T4 & _d) : a(_a), b(_b), c(_c), d(_d) {} Quartett() {} T1 a; T2 b; T3 c; T4 d; };
creator: kohait00
date: 2010-08-13T12:59:10-00:00

Re: NEW: generic Toupel grouper
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description: The boost implementation is really overkill. But one thing I like about it is the "indexed" access using the get<N>() function. Also, something like //for Two (similar for bigger touples): Value operator[](int i)const{ ASSERT(i>=0&&i<2); if(i==0) return a; else return b; } would be nice thing to have. Honza
creator: dolik.rce
date: 2010-08-13T18:21:28-00:00

Re: NEW: generic Toupel grouper
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description: So, after criticizing kohaits proposals I felt obligated to show my own idea about how Touples should be implemented... Here is the result: #include <Core/Core.h> using namespace Upp; String AsString(Nuller n){return "";} template <int N,class A,class B,class C> struct TTypes {typedef Nuller Type;}; template <class A,class B,class C> struct TTypes<0,A,B,C> {typedef A Type;}; template <class A,class B,class C> struct TTypes<1,A,B,C> {typedef B Type;}; template <class A,class B,class C> struct TTypes<2,A,B,C> {typedef C Type;}; template<class A, class B,class C> struct Touple; template<int N,class A,class B,class C> struct Retriever{ static Nuller Get(Touple<A,B,C>& t){return Null;}; }; template<class A,class B,class C> struct Retriever<0,A,B,C>{ static typename TTypes<0,A,B,C>::Type Get(Touple<A,B,C>& t){return t.a;}; }; template<class A,class B,class C> struct Retriever<1,A,B,C>{ static typename TTypes<1,A,B,C>::Type Get(Touple<A,B,C>& t){return t.b;}; }; template<class A,class B,class C> struct Retriever<2,A,B,C>{ static typename TTypes<2,A,B,C>::Type Get(Touple<A,B,C>& t){return t.c;}; }; template<class A, class B=Nuller,class C=Nuller> struct Touple{ A a; B b; C c; Touple(){}; Touple(A a):a(a){}; Touple(A a,B b):a(a),b(b){}; Touple(A a,B b,C c):a(a),b(b),c(c){}; template<int N> typename TTypes<N,A,B,C>::Type Get(){ return Retriever<N,A,B,C>::Get(*this); }; template<class T> Touple& operator=(const T& t){ a=t.a; b=t.b; c=t.c; } int GetCount()const{ for(int i=2; i>0; i--){ if((*this)[i]!=Value(Null)) return i+1; } return 1; } Value operator[](int i)const{ if (i==0) return Value(a); else if(i==1) return Value(b); else if(i==2) return Value(c); else ASSERT_(false,"index out of bounds"); } String ToString()const{ String s=AsString(c); s=AsString(b)+(s.GetLength()>0?",":"")+s; s=AsString(a)+(s.GetLength()>0?",":"")+s; return "{"+s+"}"; } }; template<class A> Touple Solo(const A& a){ return Touple(a); }; template<class A,class B> Touple<A,B> Duo(const A& a,const B& b){ …
creator: dolik.rce
date: 2010-08-13T23:40:14-00:00

Re: NEW: generic Toupel grouper
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description: dolik.rce wrote on Fri, 13 August 2010 14:21 The boost implementation is really overkill. But one thing I like about it is the "indexed" access using the get<N>() function. Also, something like //for Two (similar for bigger touples): Value operator[](int i)const{ ASSERT(i>=0&&i<2); if(i==0) return a; else return b; } would be nice thing to have. Honza You expect too much about types involved here IMO.
creator: mirek
date: 2010-08-14T09:53:43-00:00

Re: NEW: generic Toupel grouper
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description: luzr wrote on Sat, 14 August 2010 11:53 dolik.rce wrote on Fri, 13 August 2010 14:21 The boost implementation is really overkill. But one thing I like about it is the "indexed" access using the get<N>() function. Also, something like //for Two (similar for bigger touples): Value operator[](int i)const{ ASSERT(i>=0&&i<2); if(i==0) return a; else return b; } would be nice thing to have. Honza You expect too much about types involved here IMO. I am aware of that. But if I am not mistaken, it doesn't affect functionality of the class too much. The compilation should fail only in case when the operator is actually used, since it is templated. If user knows the type is not compatible, he will just have to resort back to using the members directly. There should be no or minimal performance penalty for that... Am I right? Moreover, there are some further assumption made anyway, about compatibility with Null. That might be even more restricting... Honza
creator: dolik.rce
date: 2010-08-14T10:25:23-00:00

Re: NEW: generic Toupel grouper
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description: Quote: Otherwise I would prefer Single, Double, etc. there, similarities to data types wouled be to close (Double) and misleading. Solo is not usefull anyway (wraping one T is .. nonsense), it should start with Duo, Trio, etc.. to set Apart from the One (and maybe later Two, Three) Quote: after criticizing kohaits proposals dont worry, it's part of development, and didnt feel criticised . i am always looking forward to meeting better ideas.. to the above implementation: the Get<1>() option (idea from boost?) is a cool trick, but IMHO of little use because it's not a runtime check, but a compile time definition, thus u.a, u.b, u.c is much simpler and clearer in that sense, and less to type anyway. i mean, in terms of compile time specialisation u.Get<1> is same as u.a, you have to provide the index at compiletime, so you know which type. the Value operator[](int i) is a good idea though. to wrap / unwrap in value (boxing / unboxing is used in C# and others, though there in different context, as base class object). having Duo, Trio, etc is, as you pointed out, more or less useless, even if it's better to read so i added a 5th T and deaulted past second T. (i'd rater use EmptyClass, but there is no Value(const EmptyClass &) for it, so i used Nuller. might be usefull to have an EmptyClass Value as well?) so here comes another option. template<class T1, class T2, class T3=Nuller, class T4=Nuller, class T5=Nuller> class Tupel { public: Tupel(const T1 & _a, const T2 & _b, const T3 & _c, const T4 & _d, const T5 & _e) : a(_a), b(_b), c(_c), d(_d), e(_e) {} Tupel() {} Value operator[](int i) { switch(i) { case 1: return Value(a); case 2: return Value(b); case 3: return Value(c); case 4: return Value(d); case 5: return Value(e); default: case 0: ASSERT(0); return Value(); } return Value(); //dummy } T1 a; T2 b; T3 c; T4 d; T5 e; }; what about this one? it provides the simplicity desired and has the wrapper.
creator: kohait00
date: 2010-08-15T07:16:00-00:00

Re: NEW: generic Toupel grouper
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description: Hi Kohait kohait00 wrote on Sun, 15 August 2010 09:16 dont worry, it's part of development, and didnt feel criticised . i am always looking forward to meeting better ideas.. I don't worry, it was a joke kohait00 wrote on Sun, 15 August 2010 09:16 the Get<1>() option (idea from boost?) is a cool trick, but IMHO of little use because it's not a runtime check, but a compile time definition, thus u.a, u.b, u.c is much simpler and clearer in that sense, and less to type anyway. i mean, in terms of compile time specialisation u.Get<1> is same as u.a, you have to provide the index at compiletime, so you know which type. Yes, it is from boost. As I said, it is mostly useless and the only way it might be helpful is making the code look better and hopefully better readable. But I don't insist on having it at all. At least it learned me some interesting new things about templates kohait00 wrote on Sun, 15 August 2010 09:16 the Value operator[](int i) is a good idea though. to wrap / unwrap in value (boxing / unboxing is used in C# and others, though there in different context, as base class object). Don't forget about the GetCount() too I just don't like my implementation of it very much, but I can't come up with anything better. And if possible I would also like to see Begin() and End() implemented, so I could do DUMPC(touple)... kohait00 wrote on Sun, 15 August 2010 09:16 having Duo, Trio, etc is, as you pointed out, more or less useless, even if it's better to read so i added a 5th T and deaulted past second T. (i'd rater use EmptyClass, but there is no Value(const EmptyClass &) for it, so i used Nuller. might be usefull to have an EmptyClass Value as well?) I would strongly prefer EmptyClass too. But there might be idealogical problem: Once you make it value compatible, it won't be empty any more Maybe we should do a special class for this purpose, let's say DummyElement, which would be Value and Null compatible. Apart from what I said above, especially the missing GetCoun…
creator: dolik.rce
date: 2010-08-15T11:09:21-00:00

Re: NEW: generic Toupel grouper
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description: Quote: learned me some interesting new things about templates i'm always looking to learn as well Quote: Don't forget about the GetCount() i dont think that it is that much of use either. becasue everything is know at compiletime, and Tupel is not meant to be a base class. so i cant imagine any practicle usecase. i'd prefer to, as mirek statet, have it as simple as possible, and serve its due as beeing a compile time known simple strong type container / grouper of data types. not more nor less, except there is more things to have on it, that are of real use. EmptyClass would be great, but..your point is really good. it wouldnt be empty. but thinking of Nuller as base class in that field is ok too. actually it is a logical requirement, when enabling the Value wrapping of the types. so it's not that tragic. what do you guys think? is there more to add to this one? should i add it to bazaar or will it join Others.h? (I'm trying to 'empty' my development nest, which in time has grown with some little things maybe usefull)
creator: kohait00
date: 2010-08-17T20:22:57-00:00

Re: NEW: generic Toupel grouper
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description: kohait00 wrote on Tue, 17 August 2010 22:22 Quote: Don't forget about the GetCount() i dont think that it is that much of use either. becasue everything is know at compiletime, and Tupel is not meant to be a base class. so i cant imagine any practicle usecase. i'd prefer to, as mirek statet, have it as simple as possible, and serve its due as beeing a compile time known simple strong type container / grouper of data types. not more nor less, except there is more things to have on it, that are of real use. The main reason I want GetCount() is that it is in every container, from Vector to String. You are right that everything is known at compile time, but it doesn't really mean that you know everything when you write some code E.g.: Sometimes there are situations where you create templated function which iterates through a container. It doesn't even have to be you who uses the code in the end. One of the reasons why I like U++ so much is its consistency of interfaces. I feel safe to write template or macro that is doing something general with only basic assumptions about interface, often without knowing what some crazy user of my code will send to it And it is not only about iterating in containers - also ToString (DUMP and LOG are great example of what I tried to describe in previous paragraph), Serialize, Null constructors, operator<<= etc. Honza
creator: dolik.rce
date: 2010-08-17T20:52:00-00:00

Re: NEW: generic Toupel grouper
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description: well it's hard to think of Tupel beeing a 'iterable' container. but i can 'feel' the need somehow as well, especially looking at Value operator[]. so here the type is actually hidden. here is another possib for GetCount() int GetCount() const { int c = 2; if(typeid(T3) != typeid(Nuller)) ++c; if(typeid(T4) != typeid(Nuller)) ++c; if(typeid(T5) != typeid(Nuller)) ++c; return c; } but doesnt save us from things like Typel<int, int, Nuller, float> t; //float type unreachable for(int i = 0; i<t.GetCount(); i++) Value v = t[i]; but here, the user is dumb
creator: kohait00
date: 2010-08-17T21:21:20-00:00

Re: NEW: generic Toupel grouper
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description: I would use int GetCount() const { if(typeid(T5) != typeid(Nuller)) return 5; if(typeid(T4) != typeid(Nuller)) return 4; if(typeid(T3) != typeid(Nuller)) return 3; return 2; } That works even for the dumb user Honza
creator: dolik.rce
date: 2010-08-17T21:53:52-00:00

Re: NEW: generic Toupel grouper
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description: thats way better. one would need to check for intermediate Nuller though anyway, beeing that the case, why not simply do this inline int GetCount() const { return 5; } so it's up to mirek to decide what happens with this stuff
creator: kohait00
date: 2010-08-19T06:30:11-00:00

Re: NEW: generic Toupel grouper
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description: kohait00 wrote on Thu, 19 August 2010 02:30 thats way better. one would need to check for intermediate Nuller though anyway, beeing that the case, why not simply do this inline int GetCount() const { return 5; } so it's up to mirek to decide what happens with this stuff I believe it is not very helpful to mix Tuples with Value or try to pretend they are maps. In fact, ValueArray covers such usage pretty well IMO. I believe that the common usage scenario is in cases where you need "quick" struct which is not worth defining, like static Tuple<int, const char *> mapping[] = { 0, "foo", 1, "bar" } In fact, the only think to resolve is how to name its members. Right now, "a, b, c, d, e..." sound like the best option. STL templated indexing seems overengineered to me, "first, second, third..." are too long and "v0, v1, v2, v3..." have "zero index issue". Well, maybe something like "key, value, value1, value2" would reflect the most typical use. More ideas? Or letters are it?
creator: mirek
date: 2010-08-30T18:57:22-00:00

Re: NEW: generic Toupel grouper
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description: i'd prefer a,b,c,d,e... its just sweeter and one can give it the meaning it needs, key, value...is too specific already
creator: kohait00
date: 2010-08-30T20:23:28-00:00

Re: NEW: generic Toupel grouper
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description: I agree with the a,b,c,d,e... too. It is nice and simple and fast to write. One more question is how many values should be supported. I personally think that a-f should be about enough... Honza
creator: dolik.rce
date: 2010-08-30T21:13:21-00:00

Re: NEW: generic Toupel grouper
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description: if more is needed, this should be possible.. Tupel<int,float,int,float,Tupel<String,char,String,char,double> > in terms of Tupel as container: Tupel is actually no container..here mirek is right.its a grouper class. anyway, in case such a behaviour is needed, it can be subsequently added deriving.
creator: kohait00
date: 2010-08-31T06:31:31-00:00

Re: NEW: generic Toupel grouper
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description: so here is a cleaned up proposal.. template<class T1, class T2, class T3=EmptyClass, class T4=EmptyClass, class T5=EmptyClass> class Tupel { public: Tupel(const T1 & a, const T2 & b, const T3 & c, const T4 & d, const T5 & e) : a(a), b(b), c(c), d(d), e(e) {} Tupel() {} T1 a; T2 b; T3 c; T4 d; T5 e; };
creator: kohait00
date: 2010-08-31T06:44:40-00:00

Re: NEW: generic Toupel grouper
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description: Just a little nitpicking: it is called tuple, unless I am not aware of some British/American alternate spelling.
creator: cbpporter
date: 2010-08-31T07:20:07-00:00

Re: NEW: generic Toupel grouper
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description: typedef Tupel Tuple; no, you're absolutely right.
creator: kohait00
date: 2010-08-31T07:44:09-00:00

Re: NEW: generic Toupel grouper
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description: dolik.rce wrote on Mon, 30 August 2010 17:13 I agree with the a,b,c,d,e... too. It is nice and simple and fast to write. One more question is how many values should be supported. I personally think that a-f should be about enough... Honza IMO, 4 is more than enough.... Here is what I got after bit of experimenting: template <typename A, typename B> struct Tuple2 { union { A a; A key; }; union { B b; B value; }; int Compare(const Tuple2& x) const { return CombineCompare(a, x.a)(b, x.b); } bool operator==(const Tuple2& x) const { return Compare(x) == 0; } bool operator!=(const Tuple2& x) const { return Compare(x) != 0; } bool operator<=(const Tuple2& x) const { return Compare(x) <= 0; } bool operator>=(const Tuple2& x) const { return Compare(x) >= 0; } bool operator<(const Tuple2& x) const { return Compare(x) != 0; } bool operator>(const Tuple2& x) const { return Compare(x) != 0; } unsigned GetHashValue() const { return CombineHash(a, b); } }; template <typename A, typename B> inline Tuple2<A, B> MakeTuple(const A& a, const B& b) { Tuple2<A, B> r; r.a = a; r.b = b; return r; } template <typename A, typename B, typename C> struct Tuple3 { union { A a; A key; }; union { B b; B value; }; union { C c; C value1; }; int Compare(const Tuple3& x) const { return CombineCompare(a, x.a)(b, x.b)(c, x.c); } bool operator==(const Tuple3& x) const { return Compare(x) == 0; } bool operator!=(const Tuple3& x) const { return Compare(x) != 0; } bool operator<=(const Tuple3& x) const { return Compare(x) <= 0; } bool operator>=(const Tuple3& x) const { return Compare(x) >= 0; } bool operator<(const Tuple3& x) const { return Compare(x) != 0; } bool operator>(const Tuple3& x) const { return Compare(x) != 0; } unsigned GetHashValue() const { return CombineHash(a, b, c); } }; template <typename A, typename B, typename C> inline Tuple3<A, B, C> MakeTuple(const A& a, const B& b, const C& c) { Tuple3<A, B, C> r; r.a = a; r.b = b; r.c = c; return r; } template <typename A, typename B, typename C,…
creator: mirek
date: 2010-08-31T11:29:26-00:00

Re: NEW: generic Toupel grouper
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description: Upgrade: template <typename A, typename B> struct Tuple2 { union { A a; A key; }; union { B b; B value; }; bool operator==(const Tuple2& x) const { return a == x.a && b == x.b; } bool operator!=(const Tuple2& x) const { return !operator==(x); } int Compare(const Tuple2& x) const { return CombineCompare(a, x.a)(b, x.b); } bool operator<=(const Tuple2& x) const { return Compare(x) <= 0; } bool operator>=(const Tuple2& x) const { return Compare(x) >= 0; } bool operator<(const Tuple2& x) const { return Compare(x) != 0; } bool operator>(const Tuple2& x) const { return Compare(x) != 0; } unsigned GetHashValue() const { return CombineHash(a, b); } }; template <typename A, typename B> inline Tuple2<A, B> MakeTuple(const A& a, const B& b) { Tuple2<A, B> r; r.a = a; r.b = b; return r; } template <typename A, typename B, typename C> struct Tuple3 { union { A a; A key; }; union { B b; B value; }; union { C c; C value1; }; bool operator==(const Tuple3& x) const { return a == x.a && b == x.b && c == x.c; } bool operator!=(const Tuple3& x) const { return !operator==(x); } int Compare(const Tuple3& x) const { return CombineCompare(a, x.a)(b, x.b)(c, x.c); } bool operator<=(const Tuple3& x) const { return Compare(x) <= 0; } bool operator>=(const Tuple3& x) const { return Compare(x) >= 0; } bool operator<(const Tuple3& x) const { return Compare(x) != 0; } bool operator>(const Tuple3& x) const { return Compare(x) != 0; } unsigned GetHashValue() const { return CombineHash(a, b, c); } }; template <typename A, typename B, typename C> inline Tuple3<A, B, C> MakeTuple(const A& a, const B& b, const C& c) { Tuple3<A, B, C> r; r.a = a; r.b = b; r.c = c; return r; } template <typename A, typename B, typename C, typename D> struct Tuple4 { union { A a; A key; }; union { B b; B value; }; union { C c; C value1; }; union { D d; D value2; }; bool operator==(const Tuple4& x) const { return a == x.a && b == x.b && c == x.c && d == x.d; } bool operator!=(const Tuple4& x) const { return !operator==(x);…
creator: mirek
date: 2010-08-31T11:34:12-00:00

Re: NEW: generic Toupel grouper
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description: kohait00 wrote on Tue, 31 August 2010 02:44 so here is a cleaned up proposal.. template<class T1, class T2, class T3=EmptyClass, class T4=EmptyClass, class T5=EmptyClass> class Tupel { public: Tupel(const T1 & a, const T2 & b, const T3 & c, const T4 & d, const T5 & e) : a(a), b(b), c(c), d(d), e(e) {} Tupel() {} T1 a; T2 b; T3 c; T4 d; T5 e; }; There are two troubles: - sizeof(EmptyClass) == 1, and all these members make it impossible to be initialized with braced list. - with constructor, again it cannot be initialized with braced list (which, for me, is very important)
creator: mirek
date: 2010-08-31T11:36:22-00:00

Re: NEW: generic Toupel grouper
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description: nice work, btw: doensnt ==, !=, etc imply a quite a lot on class capabilities EmptyClass: what about a DummyClass class DummyClass { public: DummyClass() {} DummyClass(const DummyClass&) {} }; it even could derive from EmptyClass to compare maybe
creator: kohait00
date: 2010-08-31T11:51:01-00:00

Re: NEW: generic Toupel grouper
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description: void* is simple but makes things possible template<class A, class B, class C=void*, class D=void*> class Tupel { public: Tupel(const A& a, const B& b, const C& c = NULL, const D& d = NULL) : a(a), b(b), c(c), d(d) {} Tupel() {} A a; B b; C c; D d; }; EDIT: union is problematic, if T=One<int> i.e. template<class A, class B, class C=void*, class D=void*> class Tupel { public: Tupel(const A& a, const B& b, const C& c = NULL, const D& d = NULL) : a(a), b(b), c(c), d(d) {} Tupel() {} union { A a, key, v1; }; union { B b, value, v2; }; union { C c, v3; }; union { D d, v4; }; }; Quote: error: member 'Upp::One<int> Tupel<int, Upp::One<int>, Upp::String, int>::<anonymous union>::b' with constructor not allowe d in union TDMGCC
creator: kohait00
date: 2010-08-31T12:04:26-00:00

Re: NEW: generic Toupel grouper
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description: i'd suggest to leave it simple..just as u said.
creator: kohait00
date: 2010-08-31T12:18:20-00:00

Re: NEW: generic Toupel grouper
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description: kohait00 wrote on Tue, 31 August 2010 07:51 nice work, btw: doensnt ==, !=, etc imply a quite a lot on class capabilities It does, but it is not a problem, because compiler will not instatiate methods unless requested by using them. (Unless I am terribly mistaken .
creator: mirek
date: 2010-08-31T13:21:52-00:00

Re: NEW: generic Toupel grouper
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description: kohait00 wrote on Tue, 31 August 2010 08:04 EDIT: union is problematic, if T=One<int> i.e. Ops, good point. What a pity, I guess I will have to live without 'key' Mirek
creator: mirek
date: 2010-08-31T13:23:43-00:00

Re: NEW: generic Toupel grouper
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description: MSC i.e. is not even complaining about mistyped template implementations, as long as they are not instantiated. GCC is better here, it checks implementation. but of corse code instantiation is another topic..
creator: kohait00
date: 2010-08-31T13:31:36-00:00

Re: NEW: generic Toupel grouper
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description: kohait00 wrote on Tue, 31 August 2010 09:31 MSC i.e. is not even complaining about mistyped template implementations, as long as they are not instantiated. GCC is better here, it checks implementation. but of corse code instantiation is another topic.. Not sure what are you speaking about here. In any case, I have tested struct Foo { int x; }; CONSOLE_APP_MAIN { Tuple2<int, Foo> x; DDUMP(sizeof(x)); } and no problems with both GCC and MSC. Of course adding x == x; invokes errors in both compilers.
creator: mirek
date: 2010-08-31T13:38:31-00:00

Re: NEW: generic Toupel grouper
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description: i was refering to the instantiation of template code itself. MSC does not even syntactically check any template untill it's actually used. gcc does check implementation. both instantiate code only on demand. so you definitely want to stay with Tupel2, Tupel3... with their explicit implementation instead of generic fourpart Tupel, maybe thats better.. what about then to have more literal names, those Duo, Trio, Quartett? (makes code reading nicer IMO).
creator: kohait00
date: 2010-08-31T13:44:48-00:00

Re: NEW: generic Toupel grouper
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description: Tuple2 - Tuple4 now in Core. I have added ToString and also "FindTuple" function as compred to posted version.
creator: mirek
date: 2010-09-06T09:01:16-00:00

Re: NEW: generic Toupel grouper
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description: Mhhh... it seems to me that Touple hasn't been defined as Moveable, isn't it ? Would it be possible to make it so : template <typename A, typename B> struct Tuple2 :Moveable<Tuple2<A, B> >{ I think tuples are useful inside Vectors and VectorMaps.... Max
creator: mdelfede
date: 2010-10-12T17:41:12-00:00

Re: NEW: generic Toupel grouper
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description: hi max, didn,t think of that, but youre right, should be moveable, because main use was inside containers..
creator: kohait00
date: 2010-10-12T20:00:58-00:00

Re: NEW: generic Toupel grouper
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description: I am afraid that this is not as easy to make Touple moveable, because that would imply all elements are moveable too, which is not always the case.... It is a little bit troublesome situation. I have no problem requiring all elements to be moveable, however right now I do not see how to add check without breaking POD capability... (the fine method to add check is in destructor, but that would make Touple non-pod).
creator: mirek
date: 2010-10-13T07:07:44-00:00

Re: NEW: generic Toupel grouper
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description: luzr wrote on Wed, 13 October 2010 09:07 I am afraid that this is not as easy to make Touple moveable, because that would imply all elements are moveable too, which is not always the case.... It is a little bit troublesome situation. I have no problem requiring all elements to be moveable, however right now I do not see how to add check without breaking POD capability... (the fine method to add check is in destructor, but that would make Touple non-pod). I was afraid about that Anyways, I think that most Tuple usage is, as you said, to spare a struct definition, and usually with moveable content. A nice way could be some way to make Tuple moveable on request, but I don't know if that can be implemented (and MoveableTuple would be horrible, of course ) Max
creator: mdelfede
date: 2010-10-13T07:32:07-00:00

Re: NEW: generic Toupel grouper
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description: isnt there any other way to declare TupleX Moveable explicitly whenever its content is Moveable? somehow with template specialisation? so a user wanting to use it in such way simply needs to declare NTL_MOVEABLE(Tuple2<Foo, Bar>) and then can use Vector<Tuple2<Foo, Bar> > BTW: i've noticed that the TupleX(const A& a) : a(a) ctors are not used..is there a reason for that? its quite nice to be able to add things like Array<Tuple<Foo, Bar> > arr; arr.Add(new Tuple2(foo, bar));
creator: kohait00
date: 2010-10-13T07:41:10-00:00

Re: NEW: generic Toupel grouper
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description: found sth to work.. NAMESPACE_UPP //this would be best, but //compile ERROR, preprocessor does misunderstand ',' #if 1 NTL_MOVEABLE(Tuple2<Point, Size>); #endif //compile ERROR anyway #if 0 NTL_MOVEABLE((Tuple2<Point, Size>)); #endif //this DOES compile #if 0 typedef Tuple2<Point, Size> BLAA; NTL_MOVEABLE(BLAA); #endif //BOTH compile (got MSC9 and TDMGCC) #if 0 inline void AssertMoveable0(Tuple2<Point, Size> *) {} #elif 0 template<> inline void AssertMoveable<Tuple2<Point, Size> >(Tuple2<Point, Size> *) {}; #endif END_UPP_NAMESPACE .... //cpp Vector<Tuple2<Point, Size> > vv; Tuple2<Point, Size>& tps = vv.Add(); tps.a.x = 100; tps.b.cx = 100;
creator: kohait00
date: 2010-10-13T09:50:23-00:00

Re: NEW: generic Toupel grouper
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description: i think the typedef is an easy way, so we can use NTL_MOVEABLE here a short idea.. if anyone knows how to specify the salt for the name in a better way, welcome.. with this, //V1 #if 0 #define TUPLE2_MOVEABLE(T1, T2) \ typedef Tuple2<T1,T2> COMBINE3(TD_,T1,T2); \ NTL_MOVEABLE(COMBINE3(TD_,T1,T2)); \ #endif //V2 #if 1 #define TUPLE2_MOVEABLE(T1, T2, salt) \ typedef Tuple2<T1,T2> TD_salt; \ NTL_MOVEABLE(TD_salt); \ #endif //V1 #if 0 TUPLE2_MOVEABLE(Point, Size); #endif //V2 #if 1 TUPLE2_MOVEABLE(Point, Size, 123); #endif //this enables Vector<Tuple2<Point, Size> > to be used
creator: kohait00
date: 2010-10-13T10:24:52-00:00

Re: NEW: generic Toupel grouper
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description: mdelfede wrote on Wed, 13 October 2010 03:32 A nice way could be some way to make Tuple moveable on request, but I don't know if that can be implemented (and MoveableTuple would be horrible, of course ) MoveableTuple - I do not (yet) know the way how to do that either... (I mean, the correct one). Well, maybe we should just forget about checking moveability of struct components in this particular case...
creator: mirek
date: 2010-10-13T16:47:43-00:00

Re: NEW: generic Toupel grouper
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description: kohait00 wrote on Wed, 13 October 2010 06:24 i think the typedef is an easy way, so we can use NTL_MOVEABLE here a short idea.. if anyone knows how to specify the salt for the name in a better way, welcome.. with this, //V1 #if 0 #define TUPLE2_MOVEABLE(T1, T2) \ typedef Tuple2<T1,T2> COMBINE3(TD_,T1,T2); \ NTL_MOVEABLE(COMBINE3(TD_,T1,T2)); \ #endif //V2 #if 1 #define TUPLE2_MOVEABLE(T1, T2, salt) \ typedef Tuple2<T1,T2> TD_salt; \ NTL_MOVEABLE(TD_salt); \ #endif //V1 #if 0 TUPLE2_MOVEABLE(Point, Size); #endif //V2 #if 1 TUPLE2_MOVEABLE(Point, Size, 123); #endif //this enables Vector<Tuple2<Point, Size> > to be used Too verbose, we need something more sexy...
creator: mirek
date: 2010-10-13T16:48:32-00:00

Re: NEW: generic Toupel grouper
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description: in any case, the user needs to take care of that all by himself. it's just to make the process to do so a bit easier. but the thing that TupleX needs to be Moveable at least in many cases is important, otherwise usage in Containers would make no sense.. any provisions on that? any more sexy ones
creator: kohait00
date: 2010-10-13T20:03:18-00:00

Re: NEW: generic Toupel grouper
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description: luzr wrote on Wed, 13 October 2010 18:48 Too verbose, we need something more sexy... There is a way... a sexy way What would you say to this: template <typename A, typename B> struct Tuple2 : PossiblyMoveable<Tuple2<A,B>,A,B>{ ... } Is that sexy enough? The idea is that PossiblyMoveable<T,A,B,...> evaluates to Moveable<T> if A,B,... are all moveable and to EmptyClass otherwise. I can't give you the code right now, but I have it implemented (it needs only some cosmetic changes) and I will post it here tonight or tomorrow. Word of warning in advance: It is heavy "template metaprogramming" (Just found that term on wiki, but it fits ) kohait00 wrote on Wed, 13 October 2010 22:03 in any case, the user needs to take care of that all by himself. it's just to make the process to do so a bit easier. As you could already guess from above, what you say is not true It can be done automatically, by abusing the compiler/language just a bit Honza
creator: dolik.rce
date: 2010-10-13T20:35:46-00:00

Re: NEW: generic Toupel grouper
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description: Hi, As I promised, here is the code I mentioned in my previous post... Disclaimer: I am aware that the implementation is verbose, bulky, tricky, possibly deceiving and abuses compiler to do things it was never meant to do. Yet I am very happy to see the result - simple template that is able to determine moveability of it's parameters. Majority of the ugly code is in Topt.h. Since U++ uses two different way how to mark a type moveable (Moveable<> and NTL_MOVEABLE), the code has two ugly parts, one checking each method and ORing both together. Also I had to add some more code to NTL_MOVEABLE macro to be able to determine the moveability correctly. In the Tuple.h, the only change is the PossiblyMoveable<> base for each size of Tuple. PossiblyMoveable might be useful in some other context too. I just can't think of any right now. Also IsMoveable<T> and IsBase<Base,Derived> (can determine if Base is really base class of Derived) could be helpful for someone, but they would need to be little more general for common user to use... Tell me what you think about this, but don't tell me I'm crazy I'm actually quite realistic and don't expect this to get into U++. I wrote it mainly for fun of discovering new tricks and pushing the limits Best regards, Honza
creator: dolik.rce
date: 2010-10-14T00:14:44-00:00

Re: NEW: generic Toupel grouper
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description: Nice and sexy, but makes Tuple non-POD... As I said, the problem is not Moveable itself, making it a requirement for Tuple would be non-issue. The problem is that all possible modifications to TEST that both types are moveable are making Tuple non-POD... Why we like POD: static Tuple2<int, const char *> data[] = { { 1, "Kvuli" }, { 2, "Tomuhle" }, };
creator: mirek
date: 2010-10-15T11:46:48-00:00

Re: NEW: generic Toupel grouper
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description: so it seems as if the user really needs to provide the grain of compiler information that all of TupleX parts are Mouveable.. just need to find a sexy way for that, that is not too verbose..
creator: kohait00
date: 2010-10-15T13:05:58-00:00

Re: NEW: generic Toupel grouper
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description: luzr wrote on Fri, 15 October 2010 13:46 Why we like POD: static Tuple2<int, const char *> data[] = { { 1, "Kvuli" }, { 2, "Tomuhle" }, }; Point taken... I'll have to read bit more about how to keep a type POD.
creator: dolik.rce
date: 2010-10-15T14:24:21-00:00

Re: NEW: generic Toupel grouper
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description: one of my questions above seems to be forgotten Quote: BTW: i've noticed that the TupleX(const A& a) : a(a) ctors are not used..is there a reason for that? its quite nice to be able to add things like Array<Tuple<Foo, Bar> > arr; arr.Add(new Tuple2(foo, bar));
creator: kohait00
date: 2010-10-15T15:21:39-00:00

Re: NEW: generic Toupel grouper
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description: kohait00 wrote on Fri, 15 October 2010 11:21 one of my questions above seems to be forgotten Quote: BTW: i've noticed that the TupleX(const A& a) : a(a) ctors are not used..is there a reason for that? its quite nice to be able to add things like Array<Tuple<Foo, Bar> > arr; arr.Add(new Tuple2(foo, bar)); The very same reason (POD).
creator: mirek
date: 2010-10-15T17:50:06-00:00

Re: NEW: generic Toupel grouper
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description: ok i get it. this one is then possible Tuple2<int, const char *> data = { 1, "Kvuli" }; , though its a bit more verbose then Tuple2<int, const char*>(1,"Kvuli);
creator: kohait00
date: 2010-10-18T08:00:03-00:00

Re: NEW: generic Toupel grouper
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description: kohait00 wrote on Mon, 18 October 2010 10:00 ok i get it. this one is then possible Tuple2<int, const char *> data = { 1, "Kvuli" }; , though its a bit more verbose then Tuple2<int, const char*>(1,"Kvuli); The idea is that with Tuple2<...>(a,b) you can't fill the arrays easily, as Mirek was pointing out. I have read more about the requirements for type to be POD. If I understand right, then the only thing preventing Tuple from being POD and Moveable same time is the inheritance from Moveable. So that leaves us with two options: Either declare the friend void AssertMoveable0(T* ) directly in the Tuple struct or doing it outside with (something like) NTL_MOEABLE(). The first approach is troublesome because it is not easy to do that only for tuples with moveable contents. The second option is useless too, since outside of the template is no chance to do it automaticaly, as the template parameters are not known. Also there might be one more possibility. Is it possible to mark class moveable in other class? If I am not mistaken the entire trick is to make the compiler instantiate the AssertMoveable0(T*). So I would expect something like this to work too: template<class A,class B> struct helper__Tuple2<A,B>:PossiblyMoveable<Tuple2<A,B>,A,B>{} The helper class should mark Tuple2 as moveable (using the template metaprograming from my last post), while the Tuple2 itself would stay POD. But for some reason I couldn't get it to work so far Any hints? Honza
creator: dolik.rce
date: 2010-10-18T09:12:48-00:00

Re: NEW: generic Toupel grouper
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description: maybe this is sexy enough it goes just below the TupleX classes respectively, in the Tuple.h template<class A, class B> inline void AssertMoveable0(Tuple2<A,B>*) { AssertMoveable(); AssertMoveable(); } the function only instantiates when Tuple is used inside a container, which needs Moveable<> of TupleX. thus this functions checks if the components are moveable as well, complaining if not, just as usual. the user wouldn't to care at all. it at least compiles well for MSC9 and TDMGCC 440, TDMGCC451 and MINGW 440
creator: kohait00
date: 2010-10-18T10:12:41-00:00

Re: NEW: generic Toupel grouper
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description: "kohait00 wrote" maybe this is sexy enough it goes just below the TupleX classes respectively, in the Tuple.h template<class A, class B> inline void AssertMoveable0(Tuple2<A,B>*) { AssertMoveable(); AssertMoveable(); } Yes, that is elegant and simple. Much better than anything I coud think of... I don't see any trouble with it, wonder if Mirek will Honza
creator: dolik.rce
date: 2010-10-18T11:25:40-00:00

Re: NEW: generic Toupel grouper
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description: kohait00 wrote on Mon, 18 October 2010 06:12 maybe this is sexy enough it goes just below the TupleX classes respectively, in the Tuple.h template<class A, class B> inline void AssertMoveable0(Tuple2<A,B>*) { AssertMoveable(); AssertMoveable(); } the function only instantiates when Tuple is used inside a container, which needs Moveable<> of TupleX. thus this functions checks if the components are moveable as well, complaining if not, just as usual. the user wouldn't to care at all. it at least compiles well for MSC9 and TDMGCC 440, TDMGCC451 and MINGW 440 EXCELLENT idea! Applied, I guess we can now consider Tuples complete. Thanks! Mirek
creator: mirek
date: 2010-10-19T13:21:57-00:00

Re: NEW: generic Toupel grouper
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description: this should speed things up a bit, isn't it? Tuple.h:30, 65, 102 Tuple3<A, B, C> r = { a, b, c }; instead of Tuple3<A, B, C> r; r.a = a; r.b = b; r.c = c;
creator: kohait00
date: 2010-12-07T14:59:31-00:00

Re: NEW: generic Toupel grouper
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description: kohait00 wrote on Tue, 07 December 2010 09:59 this should speed things up a bit, isn't it? Tuple.h:30, 65, 102 Tuple3<A, B, C> r = { a, b, c }; instead of Tuple3<A, B, C> r; r.a = a; r.b = b; r.c = c; Sorry, but nonsense. No speedup, and there are (AFAIK) some pretty restrictive rules about {} initialization in C++...
creator: mirek
date: 2010-12-07T20:44:09-00:00