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bazaar -> UppHub
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I would like to stop shipping bazaar with U++ and move everything to UppHub (and that probably means GitHub too).
That would basically mean:
- I will keep svn bazaar as an archive (maybe move it to different path so that it is removed from GitHub U++)
- If you want your package to be publicly accessible, move sources to GitHub, start maintaning it there
- Let me know that such nest exists and I will add to the GitHub list
- Alternativly, it would be even better if somebody started maintaining "tier 2" list of packages, so that I just link such list
I suspect that this suggested step will cause some troubles disagreements, OTOH I think long term it is the only viable solution...
Mirek]]>mirek2020-12-03T08:27:30-00:00Re: bazaar -> UppHub
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In order to do what you say as soon as possible, it would be ideal if you could make a case as an example. I will try to apply it to my Bazaar packages immediately.]]>koldo2020-12-03T11:06:06-00:00Re: bazaar -> UppHub
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We should give people time to move their bazzar packages. Also their should be period when UppHub is tested and protoocol changes are acceptable. I think we need at least 2-3 release. 2022.1 release seems reasonable to me. Also, we should warn users if they move to bazaar and MyApps-bazaar assembly that it will be removed and the UppHub is alterantive. From my perspective this is fair approch.
Also, before releasing UppHub we need good documentation for it.
Klugier]]>Klugier2020-12-03T11:10:12-00:00Re: bazaar -> UppHub
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koldo wrote on Thu, 03 December 2020 12:06
In order to do what you say as soon as possible, it would be ideal if you could make a case as an example. I will try to apply it to my Bazaar packages immediately.
Same here, as soon as you provide a good example I move my SurfaceCtrl package and I put GLFW package to github ]]>Xemuth2020-12-03T12:47:18-00:00Re: bazaar -> UppHub
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Quote:
- Alternativly, it would be even better if somebody started maintaining "tier 2" list of packages, so that I just link such list
I think ultimatepp-bazaar can still be a single repo under the umbrella of ultimatepp "organization" on Github, maintained by any volunteering member. This way, it can still be in close relation to the uppsrc, and the transition would be smoother.
As I am active on Github, I can curate that repo, if no one else does it.
Best regards,
Oblivion]]>Oblivion2020-12-03T12:52:22-00:00Re: bazaar -> UppHub
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Oblivion wrote on Thu, 03 December 2020 13:52
Hi,
Quote:
- Alternativly, it would be even better if somebody started maintaining "tier 2" list of packages, so that I just link such list
I think ultimatepp-bazaar can still be a single repo under the umbrella of ultimatepp "organization" on Github, maintained by any volunteering member. This way, it can still be in close relation to the uppsrc, and the transition would be smoother.
As I am active on Github, I can curate that repo, if no one else does it.
Best regards,
Oblivion
The one problem that this step might help solve is that there appear to be many packages in bazaar that nobody touched for years (sometimes even a decade:). Often they do not even compile...
Of course, nobody is deleting anything. It is just not something I want to include with each release. UppHub provides a good opportunity to fix that.]]>mirek2020-12-03T14:42:01-00:00Re: bazaar -> UppHub
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koldo wrote on Thu, 03 December 2020 12:06
Perfect Mirek
In order to do what you say as soon as possible, it would be ideal if you could make a case as an example. I will try to apply it to my Bazaar packages immediately.
I hope in future, there will be at least one secodary list....
Things will change a bit once we gain some experience, but the basic principle is the same.
I plan to start moving stuff to UppHub, maybe including some uppsrc packages like Turtle or Skylark....
Mirek
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Klugier wrote on Thu, 03 December 2020 12:10
We should give people time to move their bazzar packages. Also their should be period when UppHub is tested and protoocol changes are acceptable.
That might create much more confusion than it solves...
Mirek]]>mirek2020-12-03T14:51:46-00:00Re: bazaar -> UppHub
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koldo2020-12-03T18:40:23-00:00Re: bazaar -> UppHub
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I think we should move upphub.root to separate repository ultimatepp/upphub. This will improve UppHub maintainability. You will need only to approve and merge PR. Moreover, you will do not need to copy something from the forum and past it to upphub.root. Also, the readme with instructions and feater overview could be added.
The reason behind separate repository is that it will do not interfere with the PR's for upp framework.
Klugier
]]>Klugier2020-12-06T18:50:14-00:00Re: bazaar -> UppHub
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Klugier wrote on Sun, 06 December 2020 19:50
Hello Mirek,
I think we should move upphub.root to separate repository ultimatepp/upphub. This will improve UppHub maintainability. You will need only to approve and merge PR. Moreover, you will do not need to copy something from the forum and past it to upphub.root. Also, the readme with instructions and feater overview could be added.
The reason behind separate repository is that it will do not interfere with the PR's for upp framework.
Klugier
TBD... Maybe. I hoped there will be more than one list.... (that is why we have "links" section).