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| Final release [message #16891] |
Sat, 19 July 2008 19:58  |
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mirek
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I am not aware about any really serious problems (there are some minor, but I am afraid there still will be..), so let us procede.
Anyway, change of tactics. Instead of releasing another rc, I recommend doing a final release - but at first only put it to website, not sf.net, and not annouce it.
Then let us test files a bit and if everything OK, proceed.
OK?
Mirek
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| Re: Final release [message #16988 is a reply to message #16985] |
Thu, 24 July 2008 16:43  |
mdelfede
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| guido wrote on Thu, 24 July 2008 16:07 |
If you can't find a solution for the recent dependency issues in Lenny, please take them out. We are programmers, we can handle it. A unworkable package is worse.
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Well, packages are build on ubuntu hoary, as stated many times here... which is 80% of user base, afaik.
I've got no time at all to build packages for every debian distro.... If you like to do it, you're wellcome.
That's an open source project, not a commercial one.
And, IMHO, is better to serve 80% of users than no one.
Max
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| Re: Final release [message #16990 is a reply to message #16989] |
Thu, 24 July 2008 17:29 |
mdelfede
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| guido wrote on Thu, 24 July 2008 17:20 |
Debian is now considered esoteric around here?
Thanks, for nothing, asshole!
Bye!
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As some (by luck seldom) idiots out there, you maybe think that an opensource project means that you get work of other people for free without giving back anything.
Well, much better you'll go somewhere else, then.
And, to be more clear, I DON'T think debian is esotheric, I'm just doing a FREE job because I LIKE to do it and because I LIKE to share it with others. That doesn't mean that i MUST do anything.
What I think is really esotheric is your damaged brain.
Bye
Max
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| Re: Final release [message #16991 is a reply to message #16990] |
Thu, 24 July 2008 17:52 |
guido
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| mdelfede wrote on Thu, 24 July 2008 17:29 |
| guido wrote on Thu, 24 July 2008 17:20 |
Debian is now considered esoteric around here?
Thanks, for nothing, asshole!
Bye!
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As some (by luck seldom) idiots out there, you maybe think that an opensource project means that you get work of other people for free without giving back anything.
Well, much better you'll go somewhere else, then.
And, to be more clear, I DON'T think debian is esotheric, I'm just doing a FREE job because I LIKE to do it and because I LIKE to share it with others. That doesn't mean that i MUST do anything.
What I think is really esotheric is your damaged brain.
Bye
Max
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You can read my name in the About TheIDE box. Though I'm a bit embarassed for it, as my contribution was very minor back then. Wouldn't complain if it was taken out now.
I have done my fair share of contributions to various parts of the Linux stack, don't worry. As a FOSS contributor you should commit to some responsibility for your work. At least try not to waste other people's time gratitously. Or else don't complain, when they say Linux is only free when your time has no value.
Anyway, don't take it too personal. That was a scream of frustration. Upp targets primarly mISV. Now if we can't manage to deploy upp itself, how is there any hope at all, developers will be able to deploy their apps with it? What is the point of a Linux port then, other as a toy for college kids?
This lame ass attitude is why Linux is stuck at 1% solid.
Sorry pal 
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| Re: Final release [message #16993 is a reply to message #16991] |
Thu, 24 July 2008 18:55 |
mdelfede
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| guido wrote on Thu, 24 July 2008 17:52 |
| mdelfede wrote on Thu, 24 July 2008 17:29 |
| guido wrote on Thu, 24 July 2008 17:20 |
Debian is now considered esoteric around here?
Thanks, for nothing, asshole!
Bye!
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As some (by luck seldom) idiots out there, you maybe think that an opensource project means that you get work of other people for free without giving back anything.
Well, much better you'll go somewhere else, then.
And, to be more clear, I DON'T think debian is esotheric, I'm just doing a FREE job because I LIKE to do it and because I LIKE to share it with others. That doesn't mean that i MUST do anything.
What I think is really esotheric is your damaged brain.
Bye
Max
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You can read my name in the About TheIDE box. Though I'm a bit embarassed for it, as my contribution was very minor back then. Wouldn't complain if it was taken out now.
I have done my fair share of contributions to various parts of the Linux stack, don't worry. As a FOSS contributor you should commit to some responsibility for your work. At least try not to waste other people's time gratitously. Or else don't complain, when they say Linux is only free when your time has no value.
Anyway, don't take it too personal. That was a scream of frustration. Upp targets primarly mISV. Now if we can't manage to deploy upp itself, how is there any hope at all, developers will be able to deploy their apps with it? What is the point of a Linux port then, other as a toy for college kids?
This lame ass attitude is why Linux is stuck at 1% solid.
Sorry pal
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Well, ok 
I'm a bit nervous too... too much work (real life one, and it's not programming).
BTW, I'm contributing too to linux, well, better said to wine development, with some (very) small patches. I do it because I like it and because I see some usefulness on it, we got autocad working on wine and that one IS useful for my job too
BTW, back to upp... I'm involved on it because I like it and I do in my spare time, which is becoming very very scarce, lately.
So, for me it's impossible to build other than 64 bit ubuntu and, thanx to bytefield, we've got 32 bit ubuntu maintained too, and to others for windows daily builds.
That said, my build scripts, which contains all dependencies, are on svn. If you have a solution about dependencies on Lenny, you can patch the script for it and we can put on svn too.
Maybe somebody will take care of daily Lenny builds.
Max
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| Re: Final release [message #17000 is a reply to message #16993] |
Thu, 24 July 2008 21:11 |
guido
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The blame should have gone to the people, who make it so hard for you to provide a widely working package, in the first place.
Sorry again! This should be a day to celebrate 
After eight years of Linux use, it is getting hard to tolerate these things any longer. People like me are starting to give up and go Mac for their desktop needs. Many have left already.
I'm flirting with Solaris, so as not having to leave my comfort zone completely. But fear it is too focused on the big enterprisy stuff, to become usefull as a regular desktop.
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| Re: Final release [message #17034 is a reply to message #16891] |
Sat, 26 July 2008 02:09 |
bytefield
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Hi,
All Debian users please test upp_2008.1_i386.deb from Releases. I expect some feedback if there are U++ Debian users.  . Ubuntu users please test this package too to see if it work on your system (it work on mine), preferably a fresh system, without upp previously installed.
Now some explanation about the package...
Logically, if we have installed g++-4.1 it needs libstdc++6-4.1-dev (g++-4.1 dependencies say that) and if libstdc++6-dev (no matter which version 6-*) is installed, Utlimate++ can be used to develop software. I've modified control file from *.deb package to have as dependencies libstdc++6-4.1-dev which however get installed with g++-4.1 which is for moment the main compiler used by upp under Linux. If feedback is positive, we would use the same package for Debian and Ubuntu without any problem.
Edit: link update
Andrei
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| Re: Final release [message #17044 is a reply to message #17043] |
Sat, 26 July 2008 13:02 |
bytefield
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Maybe this help to clarify where should be installed upp:
/usr/bin
/usr/local
We have to install in /usr/local just when we want that an update to not change our version of software and usually in /usr/local software are installed manually as guido said.
We should follow the line of all other software (like gimp, gftp, nmap, etc.) which get installed in /usr/bin. I think is better stay on current installation path.
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| Re: Final release [message #17045 is a reply to message #17034] |
Sat, 26 July 2008 13:33 |
bytefield
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...if we have installed g++-4.1 it needs libstdc++6-4.1-dev (g++-4.1 dependencies say that) and if libstdc++6-dev (no matter which version 6-*) is installed, Utlimate++ can be used to develop software...
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I've updated linux_scripts from svn to use libstdc++6-4.1-dev.
As I said in a message, I've tried U++ on Ubuntu 8.10 (next release, still Alpha), i hope this fix also U8.10 problem, which was caused by merge of some packages from Debian in Ubuntu.
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| Re: Final release [message #17055 is a reply to message #17053] |
Sat, 26 July 2008 19:30 |
bytefield
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I've tried Upp under Debian Lenny with xfce with various themes but i couldn't get your output, indeed there are some glitches but with border of widgets not with layout positioning. I'm attaching 2 screenshots.
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