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Anybody still knowing anyone using Win98? [message #25183] Sat, 13 February 2010 14:10 Go to next message
mirek is currently offline  mirek
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I would like to finally remove all "Win98" compatibility issues from U++....

(I am not quite sure whether U++ still works in Win98, but so far I left the code inside).

Mirek

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Re: Anybody still knowing anyone using Win98? [message #25208 is a reply to message #25183] Sun, 14 February 2010 10:43 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Mindtraveller is currently offline  Mindtraveller
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Yes, it works under Win98.
Some time ago Win98 compatibility became much less important even for automation projects. But why not support Win98, after all?
Mirek, does Win98 compatibility make many problems for you?

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Re: Anybody still knowing anyone using Win98? [message #25217 is a reply to message #25208] Sun, 14 February 2010 17:41 Go to previous messageGo to next message
mirek is currently offline  mirek
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Mindtraveller wrote on Sun, 14 February 2010 04:43

Yes, it works under Win98.
Some time ago Win98 compatibility became much less important even for automation projects. But why not support Win98, after all?
Mirek, does Win98 compatibility make many problems for you?


Moderate ones. E.g. people want Cout() to work correctly with i18n, which requires using WinNT console functions (AFAIK).

Well, I can still do runtime dynamic loading, but it is tedious....

Then there also are some multithreading features and similar issues. But I would say i18n is the most important issue why I would like to see Win98 finally gone.

Mirek

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Re: Anybody still knowing anyone using Win98? [message #25238 is a reply to message #25217] Mon, 15 February 2010 12:37 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I had lots of issues on Win98, so I stopped supporting it.
I guard my software against running it on pre Win2k operating systems.
Win 98 (and ME) userbase is so small currently, that I don't think, win98 (or ME) support is needed anymore.

If somebody needs it, it is possible to use an older U++ version, I think.

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Re: Anybody still knowing anyone using Win98? [message #25241 is a reply to message #25217] Mon, 15 February 2010 12:40 Go to previous messageGo to next message
cbpporter is currently offline  cbpporter
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luzr wrote on Sun, 14 February 2010 18:41

Mindtraveller wrote on Sun, 14 February 2010 04:43

Yes, it works under Win98.
Some time ago Win98 compatibility became much less important even for automation projects. But why not support Win98, after all?
Mirek, does Win98 compatibility make many problems for you?


Moderate ones. E.g. people want Cout() to work correctly with i18n, which requires using WinNT console functions (AFAIK).

Well, I can still do runtime dynamic loading, but it is tedious....

Then there also are some multithreading features and similar issues. But I would say i18n is the most important issue why I would like to see Win98 finally gone.

Mirek

Well theoretically this issue could be solved by banning all "normal" WinAPI calls (without A or W ending), an only use A version on Win98 and W on NT or later. But most cases already do this.

But in practice there should be some small issues still after this.

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Re: Anybody still knowing anyone using Win98? [message #25361 is a reply to message #25241] Fri, 19 February 2010 01:15 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Is it possible to introduce WIN98 flag which will simple "turn off" new versions of some U++ functions/abilities? May be this will solve problem more gently. For example, WIN98 will not introduce any "improved" i18n, Mt, etc. - as it will contain "old" code, while general purpose functions are being upgraded.

[Updated on: Fri, 19 February 2010 01:16]

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Re: Anybody still knowing anyone using Win98? [message #27356 is a reply to message #25183] Wed, 14 July 2010 10:57 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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my brother still operates with windows 98. When I visit him, he shows me his web space info, I just look at him and slowly shake my head. he said well it still works good, so yes they are out there.
but he is comfortable with it.

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Re: Anybody still knowing anyone using Win98? [message #27358 is a reply to message #27356] Wed, 14 July 2010 12:20 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I say banish it. Surely nobody running Window 98 has any expectation of new software supporting it?

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Re: Anybody still knowing anyone using Win98? [message #27375 is a reply to message #27358] Thu, 15 July 2010 10:37 Go to previous messageGo to next message
mirek is currently offline  mirek
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mrjt wrote on Wed, 14 July 2010 06:20

I say banish it. Surely nobody running Window 98 has any expectation of new software supporting it?



OK.

I will not rush to remove all Win98 compatibility code for now, but I will not add any such either. If XP API is required, I will be now using it directly...

Mirek

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Re: Anybody still knowing anyone using Win98? [message #27446 is a reply to message #27375] Sun, 18 July 2010 09:52 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Mindtraveller is currently offline  Mindtraveller
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I guess it is time. Even industrial automation is moving along. )
Thanks for supporting Win98 on previous build through all these years.

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Re: Anybody still knowing anyone using Win98? [message #29771 is a reply to message #25183] Mon, 15 November 2010 20:09 Go to previous messageGo to next message
roy howard is currently offline  roy howard
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I still have a Windows 98se powered box and the application is still optimal and without issues. I just apply the latest patch updates every week. It's a good thing it still is working under these conditions since I love my Windows98 box and I use it for coding.

Roy Howard

[mod: spammer, so I removed the links ... still the message is so funny.. coding on Win98 .. Very Happy So I am leaving it here for amusement]

[Updated on: Tue, 16 November 2010 08:19] by Moderator

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Re: Anybody still knowing anyone using Win98? [message #29775 is a reply to message #29771] Tue, 16 November 2010 09:22 Go to previous messageGo to next message
cbpporter is currently offline  cbpporter
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Now why is that funny? I am sure that a lot of our Windows users have fond memories of coding on Win98 Smile.

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Re: Anybody still knowing anyone using Win98? [message #29777 is a reply to message #25183] Tue, 16 November 2010 09:36 Go to previous message
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Hmm.. my memories of coding on Win9x can be summed up to "why didn't they release win2k sooner?". I can't even count how many times did I reboot the system by some mistake, it was pretty much useless as a dev platform (when compared to win2k). (null pointer reference anyone? Especially writing there? Very Happy )

(I was actually still using the first Win95 without any service pack, when 2k came out, because I didn't see any real benefit in Win98. When I saw what win2k is doing, I migrated in a week.)

I can't imagine any sane person developing AT Win9x today (FOR is different matter), unless it's true masochist. Very Happy

[Updated on: Tue, 16 November 2010 09:37]

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