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What Operating System do U++ users work with? [message #34593]

Thu, 01 December 2011 14:22

lectus
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What is your OS for development?[ 47 votes ]
1.	MS Windows	25 / 53%
2.	Mac OS X	0 / 0%
3.	Slackware Linux	0 / 0%
4.	Arch Linux	2 / 4%
5.	Debian Linux	3 / 6%
6.	Ubuntu Linux	7 / 15%
7.	Kubuntu Linux	2 / 4%
8.	Xubuntu Linux	1 / 2%
9.	Fedora Linux	1 / 2%
10.	OpenSUSE Linux	0 / 0%
11.	Mandriva Linux	0 / 0%
12.	Other Linux distribution (write the name on your post)	5 / 11%
13.	FreeBSD	1 / 2%
14.	NetBSD	0 / 0%
15.	OpenBSD	0 / 0%

Just a little poll here.
Vote on what OS you prefer to use as your development environment with U++.

[Updated on: Thu, 01 December 2011 14:23]

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Re: What Operating System do U++ users work with? [message #34598 is a reply to message #34593]

Thu, 01 December 2011 15:13

dolik.rce
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This might be actually quite useful poll. I hope it will tell us important thinks like for which distributions should we package, write docs etc.

So: Everyone please vote, so we have a representative statistics Very Happy

For me, I'm an Arch Linux fan, but I also develop on Debian (at work, unfortunately not U++ Confused

).

Honza

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Re: What Operating System do U++ users work with? [message #34599 is a reply to message #34593]

Thu, 01 December 2011 15:33

Tom1
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Hi,

I had to answer 'Windows', although I wish it could be otherwise. However, part of getting any change on that answer is to have a well working U++ port on each platform. So, U++ is in fact my survival plan in the changing world of APIs and platforms. I constantly compile and test my software products on Kubuntu Linux too, just to make sure I have written portable U++ apps.

Best regards,

Tom

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Re: What Operating System do U++ users work with? [message #34601 is a reply to message #34593]

Thu, 01 December 2011 16:37

lectus
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FYI,
I got Slitaz ( http://www.slitaz.org/ ), a 30mb Linux distribution that runs from pendrives, CDs and HDs with minimal RAM usage to run TheIde. Razz

I haven't build any upp application in it because it still requires to set up the paths in TheIde.
But it runs and could be a viable portable U++.

Here's how I done:
1) Downloaded the latest Slitaz ISO.
2) Ran it in VirtualBox.
3) Downloaded TheIDe and Upp .deb packages.
4) Used Slitaz's package manager to convert the debian packages to its own format: # tazpkg convert <packagename>.deb
5) Installed the packages: tazpkg install <packagename>.tazpkg

At this point one could remaster Slitaz and build a new ISO with U++ in it following Slitaz manual. Then one could write this ISO to pendrives or CDs and work with U++ everywhere.

Enjoy!

[Updated on: Thu, 01 December 2011 16:39]

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Re: What Operating System do U++ users work with? [message #34602 is a reply to message #34593]

Thu, 01 December 2011 17:45

chickenk
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It might be worth mentioning Gentoo Linux and its derivatives as an entry for the poll, since it is often used by developers and you might find several votes for it.

I use Funtoo Linux, a Gentoo derivative for my investigations on U++ at home.

At work I also use Fedora, and I'm thinking about pushing U++ for embedded development, I'll let you know how it goes.

Lionel

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Re: What Operating System do U++ users work with? [message #34607 is a reply to message #34602]

Thu, 01 December 2011 19:41

mirek
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I am mainly using Windows 7, simply because the result of my work is win32 executable, but I have debian installed in wmware and often I do work in it on the same codebase, as our backend is running linux...

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Re: What Operating System do U++ users work with? [message #34609 is a reply to message #34593]

Thu, 01 December 2011 22:25

lectus
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I'm currently on Xubuntu.

I'd like to see U++ support at least:
+ MS Windows (.EXE setup already does an excellent job) - Most customers use it

+ Mac OS X - Again, some customers think different Laughing

+ Debian - The Universal OS Smile

+ *buntu - Pretty much the Linux standard in Desktops and Workstations nowadays

+ RPM distros (Mandriva / OpenSUSE / Fedora) - Those guys can't handle *.deb

+ Slackware .tar.gz packages - Same as above

+ Gentoo - Developers use it as someone said

+ Arch Linux - I like it too. It seems U++ already works through PKGBUILDs Very Happy

I think those are the main distros. Distros derived from them already support the same packages.

Of course targeting (cross-compiling to) Android / iOS / other mobile OSes is welcome.

[Updated on: Thu, 01 December 2011 22:28]

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Re: What Operating System do U++ users work with? [message #34610 is a reply to message #34609]

Thu, 01 December 2011 23:21

281264
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I go with Windows 7.

Best wishes,

Javier

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Re: What Operating System do U++ users work with? [message #34634 is a reply to message #34610]

Fri, 02 December 2011 17:49

deep
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I use it with Fedora, Ubuntu, Win XP, Win 7.

will use majorly on Ubuntu.

Warm Regards

Deepak

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Re: What Operating System do U++ users work with? [message #34640 is a reply to message #34634]

Fri, 02 December 2011 21:06

BioBytes
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Hi alls,

I vote MS Windows and also Kubuntu (Maverick Meerkat).

Cheers
Biobytes

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Re: What Operating System do U++ users work with? [message #34658 is a reply to message #34640]

Sun, 04 December 2011 04:19

Lance
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I do most coding on MS windows because the debugger works far better with Windows+MSC then Linux+GCC. Otherwise I would prefer using Ubuntu.

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Re: What Operating System do U++ users work with? [message #34663 is a reply to message #34658]

Sun, 04 December 2011 15:18

Didier
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I develop my apps on Fedora Linux and when needed, compile the end user Windows apps with wine (I never leave linux Smile

)

For debugging, I use ddd since I never managed to have correct debugging with Theide (but I haven't tried since a long time)

[Updated on: Sun, 04 December 2011 15:19]

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Re: What Operating System do U++ users work with? [message #34668 is a reply to message #34663]

Sun, 04 December 2011 19:38

lectus
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Didier wrote on Sun, 04 December 2011 09:18

I develop my apps on Fedora Linux and when needed, compile the end user Windows apps with wine (I never leave linux Smile

)

For debugging, I use ddd since I never managed to have correct debugging with Theide (but I haven't tried since a long time)

Interesting. I've been wanting to try Fedora 16, but didn't find any suitable U++ rpm packages. How did you install it?

Also, how do you build it under wine? You just download U++ for Windows and Mingw and it works in wine?

If I get wine to work this well I might dump Windows completely. Very Happy

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Re: What Operating System do U++ users work with? [message #34669 is a reply to message #34668]

Sun, 04 December 2011 21:00

dolik.rce
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lectus wrote on Sun, 04 December 2011 19:38

Interesting. I've been wanting to try Fedora 16, but didn't find any suitable U++ rpm packages. How did you install it?

There is a spec file in svn... I guess that with some minimal tweaking you could use it to build rpm package on your fedora. Or you can always compile it from source code, the old way Smile

(Ask in separate thread, if you are feeling adventurous Wink

)

lectus wrote on Sun, 04 December 2011 19:38

Also, how do you build it under wine? You just download U++ for Windows and Mingw and it works in wine?

If I get wine to work this well I might dump Windows completely. Very Happy

Yes, it works just like that Smile

I use it this way in Arch Linux too. Also, with a bit of research and tweaking, it should be possible to use mingw to cross-compile directly from the linux version of theide... but most people use the first method, it is just easier Smile

Honza

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Re: What Operating System do U++ users work with? [message #34670 is a reply to message #34669]

Sun, 04 December 2011 21:16

mirek
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Overall, I am pleasantly surprised that Win is only 56%... Smile

Mirek

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Re: What Operating System do U++ users work with? [message #34700 is a reply to message #34668]

Tue, 06 December 2011 19:44

Didier
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lectus wrote on Sun, 04 December 2011 19:38

Didier wrote on Sun, 04 December 2011 09:18

I develop my apps on Fedora Linux and when needed, compile the end user Windows apps with wine (I never leave linux Smile

)

For debugging, I use ddd since I never managed to have correct debugging with Theide (but I haven't tried since a long time)

I compile in wine using MSV5 express edition : search for 'winetricks' in the forum, all is trivial to install (easier than on win)

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Re: What Operating System do U++ users work with? [message #35451 is a reply to message #34593]

Fri, 17 February 2012 22:08

arkady_c
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Win XP , Win 7 MinGW
Debian Lenny / Squeeze My u++.deb
Ubuntu Dolic.re sources.list

And what does not work Smile

? android - this is not possible?...

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Re: What Operating System do U++ users work with? [message #35482 is a reply to message #34593]

Wed, 22 February 2012 09:42

jibe
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Hi,

I'm using Linux Mint. Nice distrib Wink

Mainly the main (gnome) edition, but I have also the XFCE and LMDE editions on others computers...

I never use Windows, unless I have something that I cannot test under wine.

For U++, I use dolric-rce/upp-nightly/ubuntu in my sources.list.

[Updated on: Wed, 22 February 2012 09:47]

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Re: What Operating System do U++ users work with? [message #36673 is a reply to message #35482]

Sun, 24 June 2012 17:20

lectus
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[Updated on: Sun, 24 June 2012 18:43]

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Re: What Operating System do U++ users work with? [message #36743 is a reply to message #34593]

Sat, 30 June 2012 15:48

o_wild
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Mainly MS Windows, but also Fedora some times. Because I think of Fedora as a promising OS.

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Re: What Operating System do U++ users work with? [message #37380 is a reply to message #34593]

Sat, 29 September 2012 02:06

jheblack
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Lubuntu -- That is as far as I can tell (2012), the Ubuntu variant that is the lightest. Installed U++ on Kubuntu before that.

I had to put stuff on a ram drive so picked the lightest OS of the Ubuntu variants that I could see.

[Updated on: Sat, 29 September 2012 02:08]

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Re: What Operating System do U++ users work with? [message #40468 is a reply to message #37380]

Mon, 05 August 2013 22:10

lectus
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jheblack wrote on Fri, 28 September 2012 20:06

I'm considering testing Lubuntu or Linux Mint.

I didn't like Unity really well in Ubuntu.

PS: Also bumping this thread so more users answer.

[Updated on: Mon, 05 August 2013 22:10]

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Re: What Operating System do U++ users work with? [message #40550 is a reply to message #34593]

Sun, 11 August 2013 18:30

Oblivion
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I use both Arch Linux and Windows, but prefer to develop on Arch Linux, and in general, Linux.

Regards.

Github page: https://github.com/ismail-yilmaz
Bobcat the terminal emulator: https://github.com/ismail-yilmaz/Bobcat

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Re: What Operating System do U++ users work with? [message #40555 is a reply to message #34593]

Mon, 12 August 2013 16:47

lectus
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Update: I'm now running Debian testing.

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Re: What Operating System do U++ users work with? [message #40562 is a reply to message #34669]

Tue, 13 August 2013 22:39

lectus
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dolik.rce wrote on Sun, 04 December 2011 15:00

lectus wrote on Sun, 04 December 2011 19:38

Interesting. I've been wanting to try Fedora 16, but didn't find any suitable U++ rpm packages. How did you install it?

There is a spec file in svn... I guess that with some minimal tweaking you could use it to build rpm package on your fedora. Or you can always compile it from source code, the old way Smile

(Ask in separate thread, if you are feeling adventurous Wink

)

I now installed Fedora in another box. This spec file will be useful.

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Re: What Operating System do U++ users work with? [message #40807 is a reply to message #40468]

Fri, 20 September 2013 12:05

jibe
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Hi,

lectus wrote on Mon, 05 August 2013 22:10

I'm considering testing Lubuntu or Linux Mint.

I didn't like Unity really well in Ubuntu.

Unity, gnome shell, cinnamon... are complicated environments that I don't like. Heavy and not usefull !

You can have a Mate version of Linux Mint : it's really like the "old" (but nice !) gnome 2.

No equivallent to Lubuntu with Mint, but you have an XFCE version (like Xubuntu). And of course, you can install OpenBox/LXDE. It's what I do when I need a light environment (I don't like so much XFCE...).

And about light distros, I just discovered (yesterday afternoon !) Slitaz. Seems very nice and fast... I'll try to install U++ on it as soon as I have some time.

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Re: What Operating System do U++ users work with? [message #41282 is a reply to message #34593]

Sun, 24 November 2013 20:00

lectus
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I've been happily running OpenSUSE 12.3 for some months now.

I now upgraded to OpenSUSE 13.1. This release will be evergreen and have support for 3 years. So, I'll leave it alone stable, just receiving updates.

I got U++ package from https://build.opensuse.org/project/show/home:dolik_rce:night ly

Great distro. Feels like Windows 7 with KDE so well integrated. Good escape from Windows 8 madness.

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Re: What Operating System do U++ users work with? [message #41284 is a reply to message #41282]

Sun, 24 November 2013 23:27

Lance
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Linux+UPP is otherwise fine except the debugger is much harder to use. For example, while the debugged program is running, the ide is not usable unless the debugged one is paused at a break point. You cannot view the log, nor can you edit files, ...

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Re: What Operating System do U++ users work with? [message #41822 is a reply to message #34670]

Sun, 26 January 2014 14:56

akspring
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mirek wrote on Sun, 04 December 2011 21:16

Overall, I am pleasantly surprised that Win is only 56%... Smile

Mirek

What!? Nonsense! Laughing

I would like to lodge a complaint! This poll is obviously biased, with over 11 choices for Linux and 3 for BSD. But only 1 for Windows? What about Windows 3.1? What about IBM DOS? Very Happy

Actually, that sounds like it would be an awesome port. I will make sure someday that U++ is faithfully ported to those OSes.

And that is how Utopia was created. It all started right here, with DOS, Windows, some fermented fruit juice, a 286, and our fatherly lord and shepard, the Profit BillyG, with his Debt freeing and Interest bearing Sun, the Oracle!

Edit: I forgot to comment about Mac OSX
Edit: Edit: Wait what's Mac OSX?

[Updated on: Sun, 26 January 2014 14:59]

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Re: What Operating System do U++ users work with? [message #41834 is a reply to message #34593]

Tue, 28 January 2014 09:15

nestorkea
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CrunchBang. Debian based, but more lightweight and... elegant. With same problems, however.

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Re: What Operating System do U++ users work with? [message #41969 is a reply to message #34593]

Sun, 09 February 2014 11:44

piotr5
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I started using Gentoo, and am quite happy with it. only once I had a problem: libpng got upgraded and since I haven't upp as an ebuild and my build is using shared libs, I couldn't run upp for a while. remember: always build umk, statically, for these situations...

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