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| Bit of bussines and money.... [message #6201] |
Thu, 02 November 2006 15:13  |
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mirek
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OK, I am afraid this topic might offend many...
Anyway, I believe that in the long term, U++ needs some cash flow to grow.
Ideally, it would be nice to have some commercial backing for the library, and maybe we will get there at some point in the future.
In any case, in all of my plans, U++ library is free BSD licensed open software, usable even for closed-source commercial applications without any fee.
So where the little cash might come from? I plan to implement following features soon:
- some limited website advertising, most likely google adsense. I will try hard to keep it decent and not too much disturbing.
- PayPal donations. Inspired by www.winscp.net, you will be even able to get something in return - we will be listing all donors in TheIDE main help page (again in some decent way), with added features based on donation size - so it will be a kind of advertising too (big donation -> big font, www link and perhaps some additional info) (it is good that topic++ is now compressing files 
Now rather exotic idea:
- sponsorship banner on TheIDE splash-screen and about box. Actually, there already was such banner in 511 release. The sponsorship would be granted based on eBay auction.
Distant future plans, not very high level of probability:
* U++ consulting
* U++ Pro boxed version with enterprise tools (but in no case the free version would be made less useful for average users - this would be rather about Fedora/RHEL model..)
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| Re: Bit of bussines and money.... [message #6279 is a reply to message #6201] |
Sun, 05 November 2006 18:54  |
exolon
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I think google ads on the upp homepage and forums is a great idea, as is free sponsorship. About adding such matters to theIDE, I'm not 100% sure. If it's done wrong, theIDE and thus UPP might not be considered as free, rather adware... I'm sure you'll be careful to avoid such classification.
"Enterprise" stuff is good too if we can come up with some good ideas for features Perhaps stuff like UML generation from code and the like. Maybe a plugin type approach á la Eclipse would help this (and generate more interest with a more flexible, powerful IDE)?
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| Re: Bit of bussines and money.... [message #6280 is a reply to message #6279] |
Sun, 05 November 2006 18:59 |
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mirek
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| exolon wrote on Sun, 05 November 2006 12:54 |
I think google ads on the upp homepage and forums is a great idea, as is free sponsorship. About adding such matters to theIDE, I'm not 100% sure. If it's done wrong, theIDE and thus UPP might not be considered as free, rather adware... I'm sure you'll be careful to avoid such classification.
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Actually, you can check now: 511 version had such "sponsorship strip" in the splash screen and about box. I am really interested in community opinion on this, please check it out (still can be downloaded from sf.net).
In any case, I would never used anything that occupies screen space that can be usefully used to do your work or that is always visible on the screen. (note that google ads occupy areas that were empty before).
Mirek
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| Re: Bit of bussines and money.... [message #6305 is a reply to message #6201] |
Mon, 06 November 2006 05:44 |
yeohhs
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| luzr wrote on Thu, 02 November 2006 22:13 |
Distant future plans, not very high level of probability:
* U++ consulting
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IMHO, you should seriously consider U++ consulting and training as soon as possible. Although more time consuming, this is where the money is and it is also a very good way to promote U++.
Technologies such as webinars, podcasts, etc. make online consulting and training feasible. 
Best Regards,
Yeoh
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| Re: Bit of bussines and money.... [message #7389 is a reply to message #6201] |
Tue, 26 December 2006 17:40 |
captainc
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Registered: December 2006
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Training and Consulting is a great idea. Try to work off donations and advertising for a few more releases and set a plan for training and consulting (will you travel, or use a webex like interface, etc). I think there is a HUGE market for a good cross-platform C++ full development environment; U++ looks to me to have the most potential.
Keep the licensing the same and I think you will get big business in training, consulting, and support packages (priority support for a fee, possibly phone support, guaranteed response within certain time frame, etc). I know I would push my company to have someone from your team provide some training on using the tool and also on the nuances of cross-platform development.
The only thing I would worry about as an enterprise developer at this stage though is project shut down, though the open nature of the project provides relief in that area. This worry will undoubtedly diminish as the project progresses.
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| Re: Bit of bussines and money.... [message #7510 is a reply to message #6209] |
Wed, 03 January 2007 10:46 |
slashmais
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Registered: January 2007
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Hi Mirek,
First, many thanks for a really outstanding tool.
Second: re enterprise tools:
1. Project management support: e.g. links with planner,
reporting tools;
2. Team support: e.g. code sharing/re-use repository;
3. CVS (or other version control) support;
4. Testing & QA support
5. Direct link to professional support for UPP
(*most important - managers want the security of telling
someone else to fix there problems)
Regards
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