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Something to learn from.... [message #7100] Wed, 13 December 2006 22:50 Go to next message
mirek is currently offline  mirek
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http://discuss.joelonsoftware.com/default.asp?design.4.42592 0.3

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Re: Something to learn from.... [message #7104 is a reply to message #7100] Wed, 13 December 2006 23:59 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I think, the main problem with U++ is that it is too good for these folks.
It is very hard to sell anything, that has the best solutions to almost every problems on an area. They believe that it is not true, just a lie.
And tey are too lazy to read the docs.

Maybe we have to learn marketing...

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Their IDE is silly too, I've no idea how to add a new file to an empty project.

Laughing Laughing Is this a programmer???
Re: Something to learn from.... [message #7105 is a reply to message #7104] Thu, 14 December 2006 00:35 Go to previous messageGo to next message
fallingdutch is currently offline  fallingdutch
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zsolt wrote on Wed, 13 December 2006 23:59


Maybe we have to learn marketing...



That is what it is all about ... you need to create a need for something, just creating something usefull doesn't work!

zsolt wrote on Wed, 13 December 2006 23:59


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Their IDE is silly too, I've no idea how to add a new file to an empty project.

Laughing Laughing Is this a programmer???

well ... at least he doesn't know the right mouse button Rolling Eyes

Bas

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Re: Something to learn from.... [message #7107 is a reply to message #7105] Thu, 14 December 2006 02:14 Go to previous messageGo to next message
mobilehunter is currently offline  mobilehunter
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Hmm to be honest.
For me,first it's hard to figure how to add new file. For adding existing file was 'easier' Smile.

Sometime if we have something good, but 'hard' to use by other, it could be useless.

Keep up the good work, and we can learn from others Smile

Cheers

~fiuhhhThisForumIsMyFirstToHaveMoreThanEqual20Comments:)

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Re: Something to learn from.... [message #7108 is a reply to message #7104] Thu, 14 December 2006 05:12 Go to previous messageGo to next message
mirek is currently offline  mirek
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zsolt wrote on Wed, 13 December 2006 17:59

I think, the main problem with U++ is that it is too good for these folks.
It is very hard to sell anything, that has the best solutions to almost every problems on an area. They believe that it is not true, just a lie.
And tey are too lazy to read the docs.

Maybe we have to learn marketing...



Well, I think there are some good points to be taken:

- MacOS is priority
- Perhaps we should "reduce the hype" of front page, simplify it and put direct links to examples, screenshots and tutorials (and comparisons) there, because that is what people seems to search first (the most visited page is examples).
- work on docs....

Mirek
Re: Something to learn from.... [message #7109 is a reply to message #7108] Thu, 14 December 2006 05:21 Go to previous messageGo to next message
mirek is currently offline  mirek
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The funny part is that we had about 95 unique visitors coming from that page Smile

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Re: Something to learn from.... [message #7110 is a reply to message #7104] Thu, 14 December 2006 08:54 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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zsolt wrote on Wed, 13 December 2006 17:59

I think, And they are too lazy to read the docs.


Agreed. Many poeple want the software to be 100% usable without reading docs - and this is true but only for mp3 players and similar apps.

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Their IDE is silly too, I've no idea how to add a new file to an empty project.

Laughing Laughing Is this a programmer???


I must admit I had the same trouble Wink Adding a new file must have equivalent in the main menu (toolbar? - maybe little plus icon at the bottom of project file pane (like in ultimate player..))
Re: Something to learn from.... [message #7111 is a reply to message #7108] Thu, 14 December 2006 10:47 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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direct links to examples, screenshots


Yes, this is very important, but currently the links in Examples page point to wrong places. A bug?
Re: Something to learn from.... [message #7115 is a reply to message #7105] Thu, 14 December 2006 13:43 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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fallingdutch wrote on Thu, 14 December 2006 00:35

well ... at least he doesn't know the right mouse button Rolling Eyes

Bas


What about a 1-button mouse? Razz

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Re: Something to learn from.... [message #7116 is a reply to message #7111] Thu, 14 December 2006 15:02 Go to previous message
mirek is currently offline  mirek
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zsolt wrote on Thu, 14 December 2006 04:47

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direct links to examples, screenshots


Yes, this is very important, but currently the links in Examples page point to wrong places. A bug?



Ooops, thanks!

Mirek
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