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| Re: Linux Mandriva [message #18384 is a reply to message #18383] |
Thu, 25 September 2008 18:18   |
chickenk
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Registered: May 2007
Location: Grenoble, France
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You'll call me crazy if you're balancing between Mandriva and Ubuntu, but why not try... Gentoo ? 
Ok it's up to you, I understand this choice of mine makes a lot of people laugh at me. I assume.  But at least, information from the gentoo community is most of the time accurate, interesting and can be applied to other distros with a bit of common sense.
I believe your card driver installation is described, the Gentoo way, here :
http://gentoo-wiki.com/Broadcom_43xx
It may be worth reading these lines, and through the lines as well.
(PS. I am "forced" to use Fedora 9 at work, and I _really really_ hate it. Well, less than Windows. Oops, did I said that?)
Lionel
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| Re: Linux Mandriva [message #18388 is a reply to message #18386] |
Thu, 25 September 2008 19:16 |
chickenk
Messages: 171
Registered: May 2007
Location: Grenoble, France
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Hi,
I'm glad you have a look at it. I won't say it's the easiest to install, but you learn a lot when following the Gentoo Handbook. I learnt 75% of my basis Linux knowledge installing Gentoo.
just some answers about Gentoo regarding your requirements:
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be programmer friendly
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Damn. Nearly everything if compiled from source, so I bet you can expect a rock solid and full featured programming environment. Most gentoo users are in fact programmers.
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have latest Gnome(currently i'm using it) or latest KDE by default(perhaps XFCE could be an option, but speed doesn't matter)
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Gentoo has the latest everything. dot. Tip: add this line to /etc/make.conf:
ACCEPT_KEYWORDS=~x86
(or equivalent if using another platform) and you'll have the bleeding edge, but more frequent updates.
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don't use RPM packages (use *.gz(source), *.deb or other "internationally" format)
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Forget about RPM. you _can_ use RPM if you want (you can virtually choose any packaging system you want), but the main and official packaging system is portage, and is based on the famous BSD ports. Basically, portage downloads the official source archive, and uses a script (ebuild) to know what to do with it. Very flexible. Dependency tracking is the best of all distros I know.
Of course it does! There even used to be an ebuild for it, but unmaintained... Nevermind, fetch the sources or install through the .deb file.
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is fast (including load, unload)
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Gentoo is designed to be fast. My computer starts (including X session and Enlightenment DR17) in about 10 seconds. (Honestly! I'm not joking.). you'll find everything else slow after that.
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have support for my wireless network card(if i will use it on notebook)
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Portage supports lots, lots, lots of packages. Most of the time, drivers are very well supported and when they are not, following the native instructions from the vendor always work because gentoo tries a lot to follow Unix standards.
I'm sorry that I did not find any negative points about your requirements... That would have made the discussions less biased and maybe more instructive. Gentoo is not perfect, but it's by far my preferred.
Lionel
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| Re: Linux Mandriva [message #18399 is a reply to message #18361] |
Fri, 26 September 2008 00:33 |
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Hi everybody,
I really like this discussion, not only because I'm happy linux user, but also because I'm thinking about changing my distro right now... Let me tell you about my experiences
At first I've tried SuSE and Mandriva, but those didn't really get my attention. I stayed on windows but after some time (few years  ) I installed Xubuntu - and it was like charm: Everything faster, easier, configurable... I've started learning rapidly. I tried several other distros,to name three most "useful" for my understanding linux it was: LFS (which gave me a lot of knowledge, but also a lot of work to get a working system ), gentoo (which was not so hard, but I couldn't configure X properly, so it was near to useless) or puppy (which was very fast and lightweight, but had not enough support for my taste) and many others. Today I'm still on my Xubuntu, highly tweaked, mainly because I'm used to it.
But I think about a change. I summarized my wishes and this is what I got:
It definetly must have a good package system.
It shouldn't use any bloated desktop (my hardware is rather old).
It should have a good community support and/or follow the usual ways of doing things, so I can apply hints and howtos from other distros.
I'm not sure et what to choose, but I guess it'll be something debian based, with Enlightenment as desktop. Or maybe gentoo, this time it may work
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| Re: Linux Mandriva [message #18409 is a reply to message #18403] |
Sun, 28 September 2008 09:26 |
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In the last! what is the best linux?
The best linux i mean:
1. easy configure
2. easy learning
3. faster running
4. easy installing
5. stability
6. more packages
7. update with the last technologies
I use Arch linux... it is fast... but the most configuration things i need write in command line!
With respect, John!
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| Re: Linux Mandriva [message #18410 is a reply to message #18403] |
Sun, 28 September 2008 11:14 |
Oblivion
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Registered: August 2007
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| cbpporter wrote on Fri, 26 September 2008 11:16 |
I'm downloading Pardus Linux today. It is not in the top 10 on distrowatch and it is Turkish targeted Linux (but with good internationalization) yet I hear a lot of praise for it. I noticed that people who praise it consider it better than Ubuntu. I hope this is something original, as advertised, and not just another Ubuntu clone.
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Hi cbpporter.
I use Pardus (2008.1) too. As you've said,it is well internationalized. But I wouldn't say that it is way better than ubuntu. Pardus is very easy to use and relatively "eyecandy" (not because of some fancy gui toolkit (It uses KDE), but rather because of it's official cartoon style). But I have to warn you about it's main drawback: Pardus pacakge installer "PISI" and it's own repositories. Pardus does not officially support *deb, or *.rpm pacakges. It has it's own packages in XML style *.pisi packages, though it'sown repositories are satisfying. And this makes installing other packages and their dependencies harder. If you need any help or have questions, maybe I can help you.
Regards.
Github page: https://github.com/ismail-yilmaz
upp-components: https://github.com/ismail-yilmaz/upp-components
Bobcat the terminal emulator: https://github.com/ismail-yilmaz/Bobcat
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. Ubuntu also doesn't have drivers for it and i don't have time to search for them on internet, like I'm doing currently for my HP1018 printer(
