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| Upp meeting on next Tuesday 12 [message #24303] |
Sat, 09 January 2010 15:28  |
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koldo
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Registered: August 2008
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Hey all !
Do you want to be with your Upp colleagues?.
If yes, meet them next Tuesday 12 at 22:00 UTC in IRC*.
Come, take your favorite drink and talk with the Upp community. Free entrance  .
Don't be afraid. Come on. Everybody wants to know your ideas !
… and Mirek has promised to be there.
Best regards
Koldo
*How to get there?
- Install IRC. For example in Firefox you can use Chatzilla https://addons.mozilla.org/es-ES/firefox/addon/16
- Then enter in irc://slashnet/u++
*FAQ
- Why in IRC and not in ICQ, Google Talk or Skype ?
Well, IRC is open, does not require an account and as it is a chatting system, you do not need to speak English fluently to understand everybody.
- Why at 22:00 UTC
It is a time that, with more or less effort, many people all over the world could attend
- Where is the program?
I had one but, I forgot it in the underground  !. If you have some opinion, idea or question, just post it here before. If we do not have enough time, we should have to meet us again !
- Which is the right drink ?
Well, you know, tea, coffee, czech beer…
- And why not a full conference, with hostesses dressing in red
Ok, if you sponsor it.
Best regards
Iñaki
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| Re: Upp meeting on next Tuesday 12 [message #24328 is a reply to message #24327] |
Mon, 11 January 2010 10:13  |
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koldo
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Hello all
For next or other meetings I include some proposals. They are not original as more or less they have been commented in Forum before:
Poll to choose the better meeting time
Every attendee can indicate his/her favorites begin-end times. We can mix them and determinate the better time for next meetings, trying to reduce the attendees effort but also trying that everybody can stay.
Development Projects
Bazaar is good; people go mainly alone and prepare new interesting things.
But some things because of the complexity (example: video player) or the wide range (example: documentation) may require more than one person. Sometimes you have free time, you feel good and clever and do excellent software. But other times you do not, so really more than one person would be required to get the goals in finite time.
And this requires coordination.
It would be positive to have a place to coordinate teamworks. That place could let to:
* Propose new projects: definition, goals, output expected
* Arrange teams
* Put the status, news, schedule
Bazaar page could be this place, although some dynamic parts, like project specification, perhaps could be in a collaborative documentation place like Google Docs. The final output would be C++ or T++.
Bazaar page
Now we have a Bazaar page. It is great !. And we can do it better. It is proposed to add new info. to this page like:
* For the package users
--* Component table
--* How to use them
* For the package authors
--* Introduction and license
--* How to include new contents
----* Package description
----* Upload system
----* Folder organization
----* Permissions
----* Format
----* Max size
--* Maintenance
Bazaar page could even be more significant if it would center former proposal.
Ultimate Book
Ultimate documentation is growing and is available in TheIde and Upp applications through Topic++ help technology.
However some of us think that there is a space for a well structured book including the documentation from the beginners side to the reference guide and appendixes with Bazaar projects. Easy to read in the introduction areas, but complete in the reference areas, with many examples and following Upp design style. All the docs in one place instead of in different help pages, so easier to be distributed.
To do it from the scratch would be an astonishing job. Not only to build it up, it has to be maintained updated.
So why not have both things at the same time ?: Based in Upp technology we can have a help system and a book with only one effort.
Join to prepare the required software and redefine the actual help pages to be compatible with the book.
Best regards
Koldo
Best regards
Iñaki
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| Re: Upp meeting on next Tuesday 12 [message #24340 is a reply to message #24328] |
Mon, 11 January 2010 16:29 |
andrei_natanael
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Registered: January 2009
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| koldo wrote on Mon, 11 January 2010 11:13 |
Bazaar page could be this place, although some dynamic parts, like project specification, perhaps could be in a collaborative documentation place like Google Docs. The final output would be C++ or T++.
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Sorry, but i dislike to use too many sources...
We have nightly builds, bug reports, feature requests, wiki, repository mirroring on googlecode, some releases, bug reports and feature request on sourceforge, site, documentation and forum on ultimatepp.org. If we manage to use git for U++ repository where will be master repo which everyone may clone? Gitorious, GoogleCode, SourceForge, Ultimatepp? Just count with me how many accounts one need to participate to one single project:
U++ forum, Google, Sourceforge, Subversion account. Now think that one may participate to more than one project.
IMO we have to have one central point, Ultimatepp site, documentation is here, forum is here and eventually a single host for repository and which provide bug reports, feature requests or we should put these last two on U++ site.
Sorry for being off-topic a bit.
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| Re: Upp meeting on next Tuesday 12 [message #24346 is a reply to message #24340] |
Mon, 11 January 2010 17:58 |
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koldo
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| andrei_natanael wrote on Mon, 11 January 2010 16:29 |
| koldo wrote on Mon, 11 January 2010 11:13 |
Bazaar page could be this place, although some dynamic parts, like project specification, perhaps could be in a collaborative documentation place like Google Docs. The final output would be C++ or T++.
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Sorry, but i dislike to use too many sources...
We have nightly builds, bug reports, feature requests, wiki, repository mirroring on googlecode, some releases, bug reports and feature request on sourceforge, site, documentation and forum on ultimatepp.org. If we manage to use git for U++ repository where will be master repo which everyone may clone? Gitorious, GoogleCode, SourceForge, Ultimatepp? Just count with me how many accounts one need to participate to one single project:
U++ forum, Google, Sourceforge, Subversion account. Now think that one may participate to more than one project.
IMO we have to have one central point, Ultimatepp site, documentation is here, forum is here and eventually a single host for repository and which provide bug reports, feature requests or we should put these last two on U++ site.
Sorry for being off-topic a bit.
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Hello Andrei
I agree with you . Precisely because of it I think it is important to have a meeting like tomorrow and to center and coordinate the efforts. Don't you ?.
Best regards
koldo
Best regards
Iñaki
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