U++ forum: Welcome to the forum

Search on this site

Search in forums

Home » Community » Coffee corner » What are your development phases?

Show: Today's Messages :: Show Polls :: Message Navigator
E-mail to friend

What are your development phases? [message #34485]

Fri, 25 November 2011 12:35

lectus
Messages: 329
Registered: September 2006
Location: Brazil

Senior Member

Hi guys!
Quick question for you experienced C++/U++ developers.
What are the steps you usually use for developing your software? Do you have design phases? Do you develop class diagrams with UML? What UML tools do you use?

Thanks!

Report message to a moderator

Re: What are your development phases? [message #34487 is a reply to message #34485]

Fri, 25 November 2011 13:21

mirek
Messages: 14257
Registered: November 2005

Ultimate Member

lectus wrote on Fri, 25 November 2011 06:35

Hi guys!
Quick question for you experienced C++/U++ developers.
What are the steps you usually use for developing your software?

1: Create main package and application skeleton.
2: Add a feature or a couple of features
3: Check with users
4: Goto 2

Quote:

Do you have design phases?

No. But in work, we have product managers that are supposed to create feature requests. We are doing scrum, so each 'run' (which is about 2 weeks now) we get/negotiate a list of features we are supposed to implement/test/deploy.

Quote:

Do you develop class diagrams with UML?

IMO, unless you have highly educated non-programmers around, UML does not make much sense.

It could be useful if product/project managers could understand UML. But then they could have been programmers, right? Smile

For programmers it makes little sense. But could be just my opinion.

That said, I do not believe much in 'design phase'. Each time somebody starts to 'paint boxes and arrows', I am getting depressed Wink

IME those boxes rarely survive initial development and almost never deloyment... Smile

Report message to a moderator

Re: What are your development phases? [message #34495 is a reply to message #34485]

Fri, 25 November 2011 19:28

mr_ped
Messages: 826
Registered: November 2005
Location: Czech Republic - Praha

Experienced Contributor

1) create main package + test package
2) write first test
3) compile + run
4) fix all failed tests
5) refactor
6) goto 2

In parallel I do draw boxes and arrows on paper to keep some vague idea what I tried to do at first and then changed it completely during implementation. Wink

[Updated on: Fri, 25 November 2011 19:29]

Report message to a moderator

Re: What are your development phases? [message #34507 is a reply to message #34485]

Sat, 26 November 2011 13:04

dolik.rce
Messages: 1791
Registered: August 2008
Location: Czech Republic

Ultimate Contributor

I'm kind of an anarchist in this Smile

I don't have any stable workflow, I just do whatever I feel like at the moment. Most times I start with implementing the main feature, and then wrap the GUI around it later. But sometimes I do exact opposite - design GUI and then write features in it, one by one. It usually depends on what part of app I have clearer idea about Smile

In any case I test a lot. Not really test-based development, just trying manually if the code behaves as expected. Thanks to U++ build system I can afford to rebuild every couple lines Smile

So in general I can sum it up as:

1. write minimal buildable code (plain Top window or single function call in CONSOLE_APP_MAIN)
2. build and see if it works
3. add/improve feature (just a couple lines)
4. go to 2

I don't paint lines&boxes... If I need to see the code organization, I use Doxygen afterwards Smile

The design phase happens only in my head, on the go.

Honza

Report message to a moderator