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post there a screenshot of your upp workspace :_)[OBSOLETE] [message #3432] Wed, 24 May 2006 21:56 Go to next message
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qwerty wrote on Wed, 24 May 2006 20:56

...if the admins has nothing against it :>




...If you want these forums to be shut down in the nearest future...

The free space left is 200MB (from 400MB). Your screenshot is 0.5MB. Count yourself. But even the bigger problem is that the search engines spiders eat bandwidth by indexing them on a regular basis. At the moment I blocked them until I resolve that picture indexing problem.
So, at least try to make smaller *.png ...

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Re: post there a screenshot of your upp workspace :_) [message #3435 is a reply to message #3434] Thu, 25 May 2006 08:17 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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oh, I apologize
Re: post there a screenshot of your upp workspace :_) [message #3470 is a reply to message #3435] Fri, 26 May 2006 03:59 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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qwerty wrote on Thu, 25 May 2006 07:17

oh, I apologize

No, no need to apologize. You can post screenshots but I just think *.png format is much more compact than *.jpg for them.
Re: post there a screenshot of your upp workspace :_) [message #3471 is a reply to message #3470] Fri, 26 May 2006 06:44 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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fudadmin wrote on Thu, 25 May 2006 21:59

qwerty wrote on Thu, 25 May 2006 07:17

oh, I apologize

No, no need to apologize. You can post screenshots but I just think *.png format is much more compact than *.jpg for them.




Incorrect...

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Re: post there a screenshot of your upp workspace :_) [message #3473 is a reply to message #3471] Fri, 26 May 2006 08:48 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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luzr wrote on Fri, 26 May 2006 05:44

fudadmin wrote on Thu, 25 May 2006 21:59

qwerty wrote on Thu, 25 May 2006 07:17

oh, I apologize

No, no need to apologize. You can post screenshots but I just think *.png format is much more compact than *.jpg for them.




Incorrect...

Mirek

Then share your knowledge and tell how to make my screenshot smaller *.jpp...
http://www.arilect.com/upp/forum/index.php?t=msg&th=1002 &start=0&
Edit: Without losing quality.

[Updated on: Fri, 26 May 2006 08:50]

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Re: post there a screenshot of your upp workspace :_) [message #3474 is a reply to message #3473] Fri, 26 May 2006 09:51 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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fudadmin wrote on Fri, 26 May 2006 02:48

luzr wrote on Fri, 26 May 2006 05:44

fudadmin wrote on Thu, 25 May 2006 21:59

qwerty wrote on Thu, 25 May 2006 07:17

oh, I apologize

No, no need to apologize. You can post screenshots but I just think *.png format is much more compact than *.jpg for them.




Incorrect...

Mirek

Then share your knowledge and tell how to make my screenshot smaller *.jpp...
http://www.arilect.com/upp/forum/index.php?t=msg&th=1002 &start=0&
Edit: Without losing quality.


.jpg (what is .jpp?) is always losing quality. That is why it produces smaller files... whereas .png is lossless format, and even not very good one (it internally uses zlib to compress scanlines of image, not very effective...).

.jpg of real-world picture will always be order of magnitude shorter than .png (real world pictures do not compress well using zlib).

For screenshots, this may or might not be true - usually you can get order of magnitude shorter .jpg, but with visible degradation. In this particular case, .jpg is way better, because there is a lot of color transitions and real-world picture background.

Mirek
Re: post there a screenshot of your upp workspace :_) [message #3476 is a reply to message #3474] Fri, 26 May 2006 09:59 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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That means, anyway, for the same quality png is smaller, especiallly screenshots... Smile Or can you demonstrate otherwise with my screenshot? Smile
Re: post there a screenshot of your upp workspace :_) [message #3477 is a reply to message #3476] Fri, 26 May 2006 10:08 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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fudadmin wrote on Fri, 26 May 2006 03:59

That means, anyway, for the same quality png is smaller, especiallly screenshots... Smile Or can you demonstrate otherwise with my screenshot? Smile


Yes, that is by definition.

However, to conserve forum space, you should rather recommend using low-quality .jpg - they would still be good enough to provide the information, but 3-4 times shorter.

Mirek

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Re: post there a screenshot of your upp workspace :_) [message #3478 is a reply to message #3477] Fri, 26 May 2006 10:19 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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To provide information, yes -low quality jpg IS smaller. But the topic was that people want to demonstrate the beauty of their workspaces... That's why I said *.png...
Re: post there a screenshot of your upp workspace :_) [message #3479 is a reply to message #3478] Fri, 26 May 2006 10:23 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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fudadmin wrote on Fri, 26 May 2006 04:19

To provide information, yes -low quality jpg IS smaller. But the topic was that people want to demonstrate the beauty of their workspaces... That's why I said *.png...


1) .png would still be bigger for indistiguishable quality

2) I believe that the right way to demostrate beauty of the workspace is to upload it somewhere else (in whatever format) and post just link.

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(I will delete them ASAP):

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Re: post there a screenshot of your upp workspace :_) [message #3481 is a reply to message #3479] Fri, 26 May 2006 10:35 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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luzr wrote on Fri, 26 May 2006 09:23

fudadmin wrote on Fri, 26 May 2006 04:19

To provide information, yes -low quality jpg IS smaller. But the topic was that people want to demonstrate the beauty of their workspaces... That's why I said *.png...


1) .png would still be bigger for indistiguishable quality

2) I believe that the right way to demostrate beauty of the workspace is to upload it somewhere else (in whatever format) and post just link.

Mirek


Then the problem is with U++ icons!
Try to make 50.4kb *.png screenshot smaller *.jpg...
Re: post there a screenshot of your upp workspace :_) [message #3482 is a reply to message #3481] Fri, 26 May 2006 10:45 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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In this case, .png is made shorter because there are very big areas of single color (white, light-gray). Those compress well with zlib.

However, still considering now deleted screenshot that started this discussion, that one WOULD be shorter using .jpg.

Anyway, I guess we could agree: to show us how many nice backgrounds you have in your XP desktop, upload elsewhere and post link. For screenshots dealing with actual problems, use either .png or .jpg, what fits better. Us as much compression as possible.

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Re: post there a screenshot of your upp workspace :_) [message #3483 is a reply to message #3482] Fri, 26 May 2006 10:52 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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luzr wrote on Fri, 26 May 2006 09:45

In this case, .png is made shorter because there are very big areas of single color (white, light-gray). Those compress well with zlib.

However, still considering now deleted screenshot that started this discussion, that one WOULD be shorter using .jpg.

Anyway, I guess we could agree: to show us how many nice backgrounds you have in your XP desktop, upload elsewhere and post link. For screenshots dealing with actual problems, use either .png or .jpg, what fits better. Us as much compression as possible.

Mirek



Agree, but I expected that people would post screenshots with a lot of single color... Smile

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fudadmin wrote on Fri, 26 May 2006 04:52

luzr wrote on Fri, 26 May 2006 09:45

In this case, .png is made shorter because there are very big areas of single color (white, light-gray). Those compress well with zlib.

However, still considering now deleted screenshot that started this discussion, that one WOULD be shorter using .jpg.

Anyway, I guess we could agree: to show us how many nice backgrounds you have in your XP desktop, upload elsewhere and post link. For screenshots dealing with actual problems, use either .png or .jpg, what fits better. Us as much compression as possible.

Mirek



Agree, but I expected that people would post screenshots with a lot of single color... Smile



Well, for some reason, some people consider desktop with a lot of single color not beautiful enough Wink

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