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Re: Does the provided upp.spec works for you and on which distro? [message #17877 is a reply to message #17875]

Mon, 01 September 2008 15:00

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amrein wrote on Mon, 01 September 2008 15:43

It would be so cool to have libupp.so.x.y.z and a clean version number before releasing anything into popular Linux distro. It's not a simple work (need to modify TheIDE, ...).
U++ is a monolith. It's so far from "re-use my lib" policy of all other FOSS software and libraries... The "build all from source" is very interesting for proprietary companies (and for debugging too) but for FOSS... it's another universe. How can I port the entire Gnome 2.x interface to upp if I don't have a lib to do a thin gnome 3.0 for example?
(Yes, Gnome, because those guys are still using C. They don't have a powerful and thin C++ library to replace GTK+. KDE use Qt.)

I wouldn't call it a monolith, since it is very modular. And this is the problem: how to build a single lib? Some apps need just some packages, and the most natural would be to have a so for every package. But that's quite some work and not very convenient.

Also, as Mirek said, we do not have a x.y.x versioning system. Our versioning system boils down practically to "year" (not counting dev releases). And I don't think we have the man power to do such versioning, especially that we have to increment a given number anytime we break link compatibility, which is very easy in C++. I honestly don't know what the solution for this problem is, except to link statically.
Or maybe we consider x 2008, and y 1 Smile

Smile

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And I don't understand the part about Gnome? Who wants to port Gnome? And they do have GtkMM, but with all the gobject crap that's in the background, I wouldn't call it thin.

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		U++ talk By: amrein on Mon, 01 September 2008 14:43
		Re: Does the provided upp.spec works for you and on which distro? By: cbpporter on Mon, 01 September 2008 15:00
		Re: Does the provided upp.spec works for you and on which distro? By: guido on Mon, 01 September 2008 23:32
		Re: Does the provided upp.spec works for you and on which distro? By: amrein on Tue, 02 September 2008 11:38
		Re: Does the provided upp.spec works for you and on which distro? By: mirek on Tue, 02 September 2008 14:22
		Re: Does the provided upp.spec works for you and on which distro? By: mirek on Tue, 02 September 2008 10:06
		Re: Does the provided upp.spec works for you and on which distro? By: amrein on Tue, 02 September 2008 12:45
		Re: Does the provided upp.spec works for you and on which distro? By: mirek on Tue, 02 September 2008 13:53
		Re: Does the provided upp.spec works for you and on which distro? By: mirek on Tue, 02 September 2008 14:17
		Re: Does the provided upp.spec works for you and on which distro? By: cbpporter on Tue, 02 September 2008 14:19
		Re: Does the provided upp.spec works for you and on which distro? By: mirek on Tue, 02 September 2008 14:29
		Re: Does the provided upp.spec works for you and on which distro? By: captainc on Tue, 02 September 2008 16:22
		Re: Does the provided upp.spec works for you and on which distro? By: mirek on Wed, 10 September 2008 19:26
		Re: Does the provided upp.spec works for you and on which distro? By: mirek on Wed, 03 September 2008 09:49
		Re: U++ talk By: amrein on Tue, 02 September 2008 20:47
		Re: U++ talk By: mirek on Tue, 02 September 2008 21:23
		Re: U++ talk By: mirek on Tue, 02 September 2008 21:24
		Re: U++ talk By: amrein on Tue, 02 September 2008 22:20
		Re: U++ talk By: mirek on Tue, 02 September 2008 23:20
		Re: U++ talk By: cbpporter on Tue, 02 September 2008 22:30
		Re: U++ talk By: mirek on Tue, 02 September 2008 23:22
		Re: U++ talk By: amrein on Tue, 02 September 2008 23:37
		Re: U++ talk By: captainc on Wed, 03 September 2008 03:44
		Re: U++ talk By: mirek on Wed, 03 September 2008 09:58
		Re: U++ talk By: cbpporter on Wed, 03 September 2008 10:23
		Re: U++ talk By: mirek on Wed, 03 September 2008 11:10
		Re: U++ talk By: amrein on Wed, 03 September 2008 18:52
		Re: U++ talk By: mirek on Wed, 03 September 2008 22:55
		Re: U++ talk By: mirek on Wed, 03 September 2008 23:00
		Re: U++ talk By: cbpporter on Thu, 04 September 2008 04:52
		Re: U++ talk By: mr_ped on Thu, 04 September 2008 09:30
		Re: U++ talk By: mirek on Thu, 04 September 2008 12:45
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		Re: U++ talk By: mirek on Thu, 04 September 2008 21:54
		Re: U++ talk By: amrein on Thu, 04 September 2008 23:06
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