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Visual Studio 2012 [message #37499]

Thu, 11 October 2012 16:57

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Hi fellas,

Most of you will already be aware of this, but for those who aren't, Microsoft has released the latest version of Visual Studio, very originally named 2012. Interesting new features, especially the extended C++11 support and the possibility to compile native code to work on the GPU with the C++ AMP technology.

Additionally, the Express (i.e. free) version includes both the x86 and x64 flavours of the compiler, unlike previous editions, and also OpenMP support.

So, you want to use VC++2012 with U++, you say? No problem. I spent some time fiddling with the options and managed to make the current version of theIde to work with it. It's not difficult, it just takes some time, so here it is for you:

From Setup/Build Methods, create a new Method and use MSC9 as builder.

Assuming you have installed VC on the default dir, the options are as follows:

PATH- executable directories:

C:\Program Files (x86)\Microsoft Visual Studio 11.0\Common7\Ide
C:\Program Files (x86)\Microsoft Visual Studio 11.0\Vc\Bin
C:\Program Files (x86)\Windows Kits\8.0\bin\x86

INCLUDE directories:

C:\Program Files (x86)\Microsoft Visual Studio 11.0\Vc\Include
C:\Program Files (x86)\Windows Kits\8.0\Include\um
C:\Program Files (x86)\Windows Kits\8.0\Include\shared
C:\Program Files (x86)\Windows Kits\8.0\Include\winrt

LIB directories:

C:\Program Files (x86)\Microsoft Visual Studio 11.0\Vc\Lib
C:\Program Files (x86)\Windows Kits\8.0\Lib\win8\um\x86

UPDATE: As pointed out by lectus, if you're running a 32 bit version of Windows, keep in mind that the first part of the path must be C:\Program Files\ in all cases, instead of C:\Program Files (x86)\

Voil� - you can now compile your U++ programs.

If you'd like to take advantage of the x64 compiler as well, the directories are these:

PATH- executable directories:

C:\Program Files (x86)\Microsoft Visual Studio 11.0\Common7\Ide
C:\Program Files (x86)\Microsoft Visual Studio 11.0\Vc\Bin\x86_amd64
C:\Program Files (x86)\Windows Kits\8.0\bin\x64

INCLUDE directories: same as for the x86 version (see above)

LIB directories:

C:\Program Files (x86)\Microsoft Visual Studio 11.0\Vc\Lib\amd64
C:\Program Files (x86)\Windows Kits\8.0\Lib\win8\um\x64

Hope this helps some of you.

Kel

PS: Get VS here

[Updated on: Fri, 14 December 2012 11:10]

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Re: Visual Studio 2012 [message #37512 is a reply to message #37499]

Fri, 12 October 2012 21:35

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Thanks Keltor for this very interesting information. Smile

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If I am not wrong, you need Windows 8 to install VS Express 2012. Confused

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Re: Visual Studio 2012 [message #37513 is a reply to message #37499]

Fri, 12 October 2012 22:50

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You're welcome BioBytes, glad to help.

Actually, even though VS Express (as well as the rest of VS versions) targets the new Windows 8, it can be installed on older Windows flavours, and the applications it builds are also compatible with those older versions.

If you follow the link from my previous post, you'll find several versions of Express to download. There is one that indeed works on Windows 8 only, but then there is one called "Windows Desktop" which is the one you probably want:

Quote:

Supported operating systems

Windows 7 SP1 (x86 and x64)
Windows 8 (x86 and x64)
Windows Server 2008 R2 SP1 (x64)
Windows Server 2012 (x64)

[Updated on: Fri, 12 October 2012 23:00]

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Re: Visual Studio 2012 [message #37514 is a reply to message #37513]

Sat, 13 October 2012 09:36

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Ok
Thank you very much Smile

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Re: Visual Studio 2012 [message #38213 is a reply to message #37514]

Thu, 06 December 2012 23:44

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Thanks Kel

I had one computer that would not compile the ide package with MSC9 or 10.
I followed how you setup the build method for MSC11

Worked good on the first try.

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Re: Visual Studio 2012 [message #38291 is a reply to message #38213]

Sun, 09 December 2012 10:50

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It comes in handy, indeed.

Thanks,

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Re: Visual Studio 2012 [message #38333 is a reply to message #38291]

Mon, 10 December 2012 23:38

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After some tests, the MSC 2012 do not seem to work fully well with TheIDE; for instance, it does not debugg correctly.

Javier

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Re: Visual Studio 2012 [message #38377 is a reply to message #37499]

Thu, 13 December 2012 02:29

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It didn't work for me.

Sad

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Re: Visual Studio 2012 [message #38378 is a reply to message #37499]

Thu, 13 December 2012 03:02

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Do you still need the Windows SDK for this?

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Re: Visual Studio 2012 [message #38383 is a reply to message #38378]

Thu, 13 December 2012 09:03

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lectus wrote on Thu, 13 December 2012 03:02

Do you still need the Windows SDK for this?

It should work without the SDK since VS12 installs all the needed files. What presumably could give you some trouble is the location of the files themselves. If your Windows is in a different language than English, or if you install VS on a different directory from the default one, you may have to adjust the directories I provided on the first post accordingly.

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Re: Visual Studio 2012 [message #38384 is a reply to message #38333]

Thu, 13 December 2012 09:05

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281264 wrote on Mon, 10 December 2012 23:38

After some tests, the MSC 2012 do not seem to work fully well with TheIDE; for instance, it does not debugg correctly.

Javier

That is true. In fact, I have had some trouble in the past with MSVC and debugging, not only with 2012. But compiling works fine for me.

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Re: Visual Studio 2012 [message #38386 is a reply to message #38384]

Thu, 13 December 2012 10:49

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Hi!
I'm using VS 2012 Express on a brand new laptop. So I didn't have any VS version before.

It works now. I had I typo mistake.

BTW... it looks like that winrt folder doesn't exist here. It might be only available in VS 2012 Ultimate, but not in Express. I think those files are for WinRT (Windows on ARM) and not Windows 7.

Hopefully the infomartion we collect here will help the U++ developers including VS 2012 support in TheIde.

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Re: Visual Studio 2012 [message #38387 is a reply to message #38386]

Thu, 13 December 2012 11:10

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lectus wrote on Thu, 13 December 2012 10:49

It works now. I had I typo mistake.

Glad to hear you sorted it out

lectus wrote on Thu, 13 December 2012 10:49

BTW... it looks like that winrt folder doesn't exist here. It might be only available in VS 2012 Ultimate, but not in Express. I think those files are for WinRT (Windows on ARM) and not Windows 7.

I am running VS Express and I had all those directories. I added them all as include folders just for completion, since they may be needed for someone, but if your version does not have them, then no problem.

lectus wrote on Thu, 13 December 2012 10:49

Hopefully the infomartion we collect here will help the U++ developers including VS 2012 support in TheIde.

Indeed

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Re: Visual Studio 2012 [message #38391 is a reply to message #38387]

Thu, 13 December 2012 13:39

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I just tested the following C++11 feature:

	Vector<String> v;
	v << "Item 1" << "Item 2" << "Item 3";
	
	for(auto s: v)
		arr.Add(s);

And it works great! U++ is already ready for these new C++ features. I didn't need to set up any additional compiler flag.

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Re: Visual Studio 2012 [message #38401 is a reply to message #37499]

Fri, 14 December 2012 01:50

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One important thing to notice is that on Windows 7 32-bits the path is:

Quote:

C:\Program Files...

instead of

Quote:

C:\Program Files (x86)...

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Re: Visual Studio 2012 [message #38405 is a reply to message #37499]

Fri, 14 December 2012 11:05

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That is very true. It slipped my mind since I've been on x64 for so long now. I'll update the first post. Thanks!

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Re: Visual Studio 2012 [message #38467 is a reply to message #37499]

Wed, 19 December 2012 12:54

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There's a new update called Visual Studio 2012 Update 1.

It includes Windows XP targeting for C++.

I wonder how that affects U++ when using this compiler.

Does it mean that without this update programs will not run on Windows XP?

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Re: Visual Studio 2012 [message #38701 is a reply to message #38467]

Mon, 07 January 2013 23:15

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Thanks!

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Re: Visual Studio 2012 [message #38750 is a reply to message #37499]

Sat, 12 January 2013 19:34

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That works good. It will be a help when Upp includes support for 2012.

I updated the Upp build and should have renamed the Upp directory adding the build number. I usually do but this time did not.
Spent an hour or so trying to get it to work.
Got to an internet connection and got the data again.

One thing I noticed it is a little more picky on letting things slide. I had a few functions like:
string Func (.....)
String daa;
.......
return daa

no go.

had to change it to
String Func (....)

Thanks again Kel

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Re: Visual Studio 2012 [message #39180 is a reply to message #38750]

Sat, 23 February 2013 21:01

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This is the 3rd time I have to refer to this post to set up for VS2012.

Upgrading upp will erase the build method. This time I'll make sure that I copy the bm file to a safe place.

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