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CJK (chinesse / japanesse / korean) improvements [message #4982]

Tue, 29 August 2006 12:10

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Fruitfull discussion with hongdong led to these improvements:

* U++ is now able to read multibyte (CJK) encoded filesystem (e.g. FileSelector now should correctly display chinesse filenames).

* LineEdit (and therefore TheIDE) now displays CJK ideographs in double width

* FontInfo is now optimized not to waste space storing ideograph widths, as ideographs seem to be monospaced (however, it is tested so this optimization is performed only if they really are monospaced).

* New IsCJKIdeograph function returns true if unicode character is cjk ideograph

I am not 100% sure if my range is correct, I have defined it as

inline bool IsCJKIdeograph(int c) { return c >= 0x2e80 && c <= 0xdfaf || c >= 0xf900 && c <= 0xfaff; }

Anyway, for current practical purposes (LineEdit) it should be OK.

Mirek

P.S.: What about chinesse translation? Smile

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Re: CJK (chinesse / japanesse / korean) improvements [message #5001 is a reply to message #4982]

Wed, 30 August 2006 11:35

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The improvement is so quick,really surprising!

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Re: CJK (chinesse / japanesse / korean) improvements [message #5025 is a reply to message #4982]

Thu, 31 August 2006 02:27

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luzr wrote on Tue, 29 August 2006 06:10

Fruitfull discussion with hongdong led to these improvements:

* U++ is now able to read multibyte (CJK) encoded filesystem (e.g. FileSelector now should correctly display chinesse filenames).

* LineEdit (and therefore TheIDE) now displays CJK ideographs in double width

* FontInfo is now optimized not to waste space storing ideograph widths, as ideographs seem to be monospaced (however, it is tested so this optimization is performed only if they really are monospaced).

* New IsCJKIdeograph function returns true if unicode character is cjk ideograph

I am not 100% sure if my range is correct, I have defined it as

inline bool IsCJKIdeograph(int c) { return c >= 0x2e80 && c <= 0xdfaf || c >= 0xf900 && c <= 0xfaff; }

Anyway, for current practical purposes (LineEdit) it should be OK.

Mirek

it is already in 608-dev2,so happy!!

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P.S.: What about chinesse translation?

no neccessary but would be nice.

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Re: CJK (chinesse / japanesse / korean) improvements [message #5029 is a reply to message #5025]

Thu, 31 August 2006 05:22

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Quote:

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P.S.: What about chinesse translation?

no neccessary but would be nice.

Actually, that was a suggestion for your contribution:)

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Re: CJK (chinesse / japanesse / korean) improvements [message #5030 is a reply to message #5029]

Thu, 31 August 2006 06:59

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luzr wrote on Wed, 30 August 2006 23:22

Actually, that was a suggestion for your contribution:)
Mirek

I would like to,but now I just begin to learn U++,I hope I can do it not too late.
thank you for your trust!

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Re: CJK (chinesse / japanesse / korean) improvements [message #5033 is a reply to message #5030]

Thu, 31 August 2006 17:47

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All you need to do is run TheIDE with specific flag, then edit single text file.

See http://upp.sourceforge.net/srcdoc$Core$i18n$en-us.html

Use UTF-8 for chinesse.

Anyway, there is no hurry. But chinesse would be nice to have, if only as proof of concept....

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Re: CJK (chinesse / japanesse / korean) improvements [message #5042 is a reply to message #5033]

Fri, 01 September 2006 03:22

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Hi,Open IDE package,in menu "Synchronize translation files"(STF)->Versions->context menu->Add,can't find ZH.my Lang tag is zh-CN.I try to modify Core.t file manually,add something at the same way as others,this time STF can't find Core.t anymore.there something wrong,any hint?
thanks !

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Re: CJK (chinesse / japanesse / korean) improvements [message #5044 is a reply to message #5042]

Fri, 01 September 2006 08:04

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First of all, modifying Core.t is possible but not the best way how to do that. You should rather produce .tr file.

Other than that, yes, now looking at sources, I am now afraid chinesse i18n codes are not there yet Smile

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What combinations should we support for CJK?

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Re: CJK (chinesse / japanesse / korean) improvements [message #5049 is a reply to message #5044]

Fri, 01 September 2006 09:25

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I read the link you point,there two ways to translate,one is on compile time,second on runtime.I prefer runtime,because it only need one build exe,people can easily add another language support without recomplie all.
yes,"chinesse i18n codes" t.h has no zhCN info
btw,how about the font selector's chinese support(I post it in I18N)
thanks

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Re: CJK (chinesse / japanesse / korean) improvements [message #5051 is a reply to message #5049]

Fri, 01 September 2006 10:19

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What about Japan and Korea?

As for font names, I have noticed the problem. Working on solution (it is a little bit more complicated fix - we will need to enhance the code for storing "os-encoded" name and "translated" name...)

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Re: CJK (chinesse / japanesse / korean) improvements [message #5052 is a reply to message #5049]

Fri, 01 September 2006 10:20

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P.S.: Runtime translation support (export .tr and fix it...) can be easily imported by theide to provide compile time support. That is why it is preferred method of providing translations.

Mirek

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Re: CJK (chinesse / japanesse / korean) improvements [message #5056 is a reply to message #5052]

Fri, 01 September 2006 17:05

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I have made a .tr file,but how can use it to make theIDE's face to be Chinese.my suggestion:insert one button to menu of application index.php?t=getfile&id=245&private=0

index.php?t=getfile&id=245&private=0

,use this someone can select which language to be used.

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Re: CJK (chinesse / japanesse / korean) improvements [message #5057 is a reply to message #5056]

Fri, 01 September 2006 17:08

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Here is the .tr file. I think .tr is likely wx's .po file

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Re: CJK (chinesse / japanesse / korean) improvements [message #5058 is a reply to message #5051]

Fri, 01 September 2006 17:11

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luzr wrote on Fri, 01 September 2006 04:19

What about Japan and Korea?
Mirek

I don't Know Japanese and Korea too.but principle is same

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Re: CJK (chinesse / japanesse / korean) improvements [message #5070 is a reply to message #5056]

Sat, 02 September 2006 08:06

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Actually, we have no plans to internationalize TheIDE. The idea of C++ programmer that does not understand English is weird one.

Language switching should be the function of application.

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Re: CJK (chinesse / japanesse / korean) improvements [message #5072 is a reply to message #5057]

Sat, 02 September 2006 08:16

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hongdong wrote on Fri, 01 September 2006 11:08

Here is the .tr file. I think .tr is likely wx's .po file

This does not look like UTF-8. Have you edited the file using TheIDE with UTF-8 settings?

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Re: CJK (chinesse / japanesse / korean) improvements [message #5073 is a reply to message #5072]

Sat, 02 September 2006 09:44

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luzr wrote on Sat, 02 September 2006 02:16

This does not look like UTF-8. Have you edited the file using TheIDE with UTF-8 settings?

Mirek

Sorry,now it is UTF8

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Re: CJK (chinesse / japanesse / korean) improvements [message #5082 is a reply to message #5073]

Sat, 02 September 2006 23:19

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OK, now in the main tree...

BTW, have you used TheIDE to edit the file? There was some strange character before "LANGUAGE" at the beginning of the file...

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Re: CJK (chinesse / japanesse / korean) improvements [message #5084 is a reply to message #5082]

Sun, 03 September 2006 07:55

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luzr wrote on Sat, 02 September 2006 17:19

OK, now in the main tree...

BTW, have you used TheIDE to edit the file? There was some strange character before "LANGUAGE" at the beginning of the file...

Mirek

no,I used UltraEdit(just custom),I don't know why there is difference.

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Re: CJK (chinesse / japanesse / korean) improvements [message #5085 is a reply to message #5070]

Sun, 03 September 2006 07:58

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luzr wrote on Sat, 02 September 2006 02:06

Actually, we have no plans to internationalize TheIDE. The idea of C++ programmer that does not understand English is weird one.

Language switching should be the function of application.

Mirek

I agree

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