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Raspberry Pi [message #34275] Mon, 07 November 2011 17:59 Go to next message
mirek is currently offline  mirek
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Raspberry_Pi

Are you getting one? Smile

I do. I believe that it will be 'ultimate' low-power/low-performace platform to play with Smile

(but then we have started developing U++ when 200Mhz Pentium I was standard target platform for U++ apps. 700Mhz ARM should be just fine for running theide. And BLITZ can possibly make compilation bearable Wink

Re: Raspberry Pi [message #34279 is a reply to message #34275] Mon, 07 November 2011 21:37 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Hello Mirek

How did you make the order?

I wanted to do a very low cost security system with camera and modem for my mom Smile (and later for me).


Best regards
IƱaki
Re: Raspberry Pi [message #34281 is a reply to message #34279] Tue, 08 November 2011 06:39 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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koldo wrote on Mon, 07 November 2011 15:37

Hello Mirek

How did you make the order?


It should be first available in December...

Re: Raspberry Pi [message #34283 is a reply to message #34275] Tue, 08 November 2011 09:33 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I'm looking on it as well, not sure what I would do with one, but $35 sounds right to me. Actually it's crazy, considering the computing power of that board. (700MHz RISC processor and OGL chip if I understand the specs correctly)

Let me know for sure if you get one finally and how does it work. Smile (maybe time for another Prague live session to see U++ running on it Very Happy )
Re: Raspberry Pi [message #34287 is a reply to message #34283] Tue, 08 November 2011 11:17 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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mr_ped wrote on Tue, 08 November 2011 03:33

I'm looking on it as well, not sure what I would do with one, but $35 sounds right to me. Actually it's crazy, considering the computing power of that board. (700MHz RISC processor and OGL chip if I understand the specs correctly)

Let me know for sure if you get one finally and how does it work. Smile (maybe time for another Prague live session to see U++ running on it Very Happy )


Actually, I have hoped for sooner date Wink

Mirek
Re: Raspberry Pi [message #34290 is a reply to message #34275] Tue, 08 November 2011 14:41 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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sounds damn interesting.. this is one of the most cost effective boards i have seen..
Re: Raspberry Pi [message #34293 is a reply to message #34287] Tue, 08 November 2011 16:49 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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mirek wrote on Tue, 08 November 2011 05:17

mr_ped wrote on Tue, 08 November 2011 03:33

I'm looking on it as well, not sure what I would do with one, but $35 sounds right to me. Actually it's crazy, considering the computing power of that board. (700MHz RISC processor and OGL chip if I understand the specs correctly)

Let me know for sure if you get one finally and how does it work. Smile (maybe time for another Prague live session to see U++ running on it Very Happy )


Actually, I have hoped for sooner date Wink

Mirek


Ops, now I see this could be interpreted two ways. I meant sooner date for 'live session'. I do not expect Pi to available sooner than next year...
Re: Raspberry Pi [message #34339 is a reply to message #34275] Wed, 16 November 2011 17:43 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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It looks nice... the B Model would be able to be a real effective home server (maybe with a kind of asterisk?).

Do you know if it will be avaiable in germany? I'm REALLY interessted..
Re: Raspberry Pi [message #34340 is a reply to message #34339] Wed, 16 November 2011 18:21 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Wolfgang wrote on Wed, 16 November 2011 11:43


Do you know if it will be avaiable in germany? I'm REALLY interessted..


Why do you need it to be available in Germany? I guess they will be shipping worldwide...
Re: Raspberry Pi [message #34341 is a reply to message #34275] Wed, 16 November 2011 19:51 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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If they do I don't need it extra avaible in germany... but then they dont ship worldwide it would be nice to be able to get one.
Re: Raspberry Pi [message #34348 is a reply to message #34275] Fri, 18 November 2011 02:39 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Quite attractive at that price, although shipping costs may well make it less attractive. Thanks for the pointer. I remember that the name didn't catch my attention when I read it some time ago while browsing the ReactOS forums. On the other hand, it is only a naked board and you'd probably get similar hardware if you bought one of these ultra-low-cost laptops on eBay (prices vary depending on screen size (7 to 10.2 inch) and processor speed (266 to 800 MHz) between around 75 and 125 USD including shipping), which appear to be around since late 2009.

There is some interesting hardware around that should be capable of decently running graphical applications at a cost lower than what you'd pay for an ordinary computer. As you say 200 MHz processors used to be a target for U++ applications, I wonder whether it would be possible to get U++ applications running on independently developed hardware, driven for instance by modern microcontrollers like the upcoming version of the Parallax Propeller, perhaps also without any or with a custom operating system (could Rainbow be used for that?). I for one would very welcome U++ support for embedded targets.
Re: Raspberry Pi [message #34362 is a reply to message #34348] Fri, 18 November 2011 14:55 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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harmac wrote on Thu, 17 November 2011 20:39

Quite attractive at that price, although shipping costs may well make it less attractive. Thanks for the pointer. I remember that the name didn't catch my attention when I read it some time ago while browsing the ReactOS forums. On the other hand, it is only a naked board and you'd probably get similar hardware if you bought one of these ultra-low-cost laptops on eBay (prices vary depending on screen size (7 to 10.2 inch) and processor speed (266 to 800 MHz) between around 75 and 125 USD including shipping), which appear to be around since late 2009.



Yes. I am quite aware about it, but I guess the difference this time is in software support. IMO it is much better to have it running some latest Linux SW out of hand than spending time jailbreaking and installing something.

Also, for real fun, using ordinary LCD display with reasonable resolution and normal keyboard/mice is better...
Re: Raspberry Pi [message #35319 is a reply to message #34362] Wed, 01 February 2012 12:49 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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check out this one...

http://aseigo.blogspot.com/2012/01/reveal.html

seems as if there is really time to think about upp going touched / tablet based..

EDIT: thats the GUI used
http://plasma-active.org/

[Updated on: Wed, 01 February 2012 13:01]

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Re: Raspberry Pi [message #35320 is a reply to message #34275] Wed, 01 February 2012 12:55 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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but this is a completly other "device" / it aims to other things then the raspberry... but it is really nice!
Re: Raspberry Pi [message #35321 is a reply to message #35320] Wed, 01 February 2012 16:16 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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yes you're right...
just wanted to point out that embedded is evolving really nice way and upp should be a good choice for it..
Re: Raspberry Pi [message #35459 is a reply to message #35321] Mon, 20 February 2012 04:51 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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We have Ultimate++ running on Gumstix, Freescale i.MX53 (loco), and the Pandaboard, including full native IDE compilation on the arm platform itself (no cross-compilation required). Native compilation can only be done on the Gumstix with 512MB of memory since the linking stage of IDE build and application build takes lots of memory. Native compiles are somewhat slow on these arm platforms but are considerably sped up if a SATA drive is used to host the operating system. (SATA support is available directly on the Freescale and is available with a USB to SATA adapter on the other platforms). We have several active programs using arm-based Ultimate++ executables running critical embedded apps and more are coming all the time. Unfortunately, the details of most of the apps are ITAR controlled but we are willing to share some basic configuration details and examples if people are interested...

Scott Tilden, PhD
Denton Research Group, U of Arizona
Re: Raspberry Pi [message #35480 is a reply to message #34275] Wed, 22 February 2012 09:30 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Hi,

For those looking for small boards, there is also alix boards Wink

Somebody gives his first impressions here.

I never had the opportunity to use that myself, but a friend of mine uses 2 under Linux Voyage : one as firewall and another as IPBX with Asterisk. According to him, it's a very cheap and good solution !
Re: Raspberry Pi [message #35483 is a reply to message #35480] Wed, 22 February 2012 09:52 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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but the prices are about 145 EUR (just tried on ebay) - this isn't really "cheap" if you take a look on the raspberry project.
Re: Raspberry Pi [message #35493 is a reply to message #34275] Wed, 22 February 2012 22:36 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Yes, I didn't payed attention to the extremely low price of raspberry...

But I think that the price on ebay is not good : here are the real prices of alix boards.
Re: Raspberry Pi [message #36266 is a reply to message #35459] Thu, 17 May 2012 12:59 Go to previous messageGo to previous message
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Hello Scott,

I will be using U++ on an ARM board shortly along with LCD screen and touchpad, not quite sure which model of board yet (Rasberry-PI availability isn't good enough for the moment).

So if you have a config examples, UPP modifications It would save me a bunch of time Smile !!!

Thanking you in advance
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