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Re: What license Ultimate++ should use? Tell us!!! [message #17557 is a reply to message #17553]

Wed, 20 August 2008 15:20

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luzr wrote on Wed, 20 August 2008 23:48

Well, I looks like BSD is going to win.

I guess it is the most logical and least "expensive" step, in fact we are not changing anything, just fixing the license wording.

Should we wait more or should I just "fix" it?

Mirek

I don't think you should change the license yet. As far as I can see, with BSD license, you can't use U++ to develop commercial software because if you use any U++ source in your product, you have to include the BSD license in your product (even if you only supply binaries), which potentially gives your customers the right to sell or give away your product.

The BSD license says

Quote:

Redistribution and use in source and binary forms, with or without modification, are permitted provided that the following conditions are met:

My question is : "redistribution and use of what?"

The BSD license doesn't make it clear that what is meant is
Redistribution and use of the source codein source and binary forms ...

Also, I would like to see clarification of whether you can distribute U++ derived source code along with your own source code, with your own non-BSD license applying to your own non-U++-derived source code (even though it #includes U++ headers) - meaning that you can distribute all your source code without making your product worthless.

With BSD license, if all you distribute is binaries, you still have to include the license in about box or something - why is that ??? If the license applies to source code only then what is the point of including a license saying "permission is granted to redistribute ..." when you haven't given them any source code to redistribute. The "about box" should only have to include the copyright part and disclaimer, not the list of permissions.

BSD license is murky.
http://www.groklaw.net/article.php?story=20070114093427179

Graeme

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		What license Ultimate++ should use? Tell us!!! By: amrein on Mon, 18 August 2008 09:00
		Re: What license Ultimate++ should use? Tell us!!! By: cbpporter on Mon, 18 August 2008 09:35
		Re: What license Ultimate++ should use? Tell us!!! By: amrein on Mon, 18 August 2008 10:30
		Re: What license Ultimate++ should use? Tell us!!! By: cbpporter on Mon, 18 August 2008 10:48
		Re: What license Ultimate++ should use? Tell us!!! By: amrein on Mon, 18 August 2008 11:57
		Re: What license Ultimate++ should use? Tell us!!! By: captainc on Mon, 18 August 2008 14:26
		Re: What license Ultimate++ should use? Tell us!!! By: gprentice on Mon, 18 August 2008 14:37
		Re: What license Ultimate++ should use? Tell us!!! By: captainc on Mon, 18 August 2008 14:53
		Re: What license Ultimate++ should use? Tell us!!! By: amrein on Mon, 18 August 2008 17:46
		Re: What license Ultimate++ should use? Tell us!!! By: mirek on Mon, 18 August 2008 19:59
		Re: What license Ultimate++ should use? Tell us!!! By: gprentice on Tue, 19 August 2008 13:56
		Re: What license Ultimate++ should use? Tell us!!! By: bytefield on Tue, 19 August 2008 14:17
		Re: What license Ultimate++ should use? Tell us!!! By: amrein on Tue, 19 August 2008 16:25
		Re: What license Ultimate++ should use? Tell us!!! By: cbpporter on Tue, 19 August 2008 17:21
		Re: What license Ultimate++ should use? Tell us!!! By: amrein on Tue, 19 August 2008 19:07
		Re: What license Ultimate++ should use? Tell us!!! By: gprentice on Wed, 20 August 2008 02:23
		Re: What license Ultimate++ should use? Tell us!!! By: amrein on Wed, 20 August 2008 03:25
		Re: What license Ultimate++ should use? Tell us!!! By: gprentice on Wed, 20 August 2008 04:19
		Re: What license Ultimate++ should use? Tell us!!! By: cbpporter on Wed, 20 August 2008 12:24
		Re: What license Ultimate++ should use? Tell us!!! By: mirek on Wed, 20 August 2008 13:48
		Re: What license Ultimate++ should use? Tell us!!! By: gprentice on Wed, 20 August 2008 15:20
		Re: What license Ultimate++ should use? Tell us!!! By: amrein on Wed, 20 August 2008 20:17
		Re: What license Ultimate++ should use? Tell us!!! By: mirek on Wed, 20 August 2008 21:28
		Re: What license Ultimate++ should use? Tell us!!! By: cbpporter on Wed, 20 August 2008 21:38
		Re: What license Ultimate++ should use? Tell us!!! By: amrein on Wed, 20 August 2008 23:57
		Re: What license Ultimate++ should use? Tell us!!! By: gprentice on Thu, 21 August 2008 01:12
		Re: What license Ultimate++ should use? Tell us!!! By: amrein on Thu, 21 August 2008 11:16
		Re: What license Ultimate++ should use? Tell us!!! By: gprentice on Thu, 21 August 2008 12:41
		Re: What license Ultimate++ should use? Tell us!!! By: captainc on Thu, 21 August 2008 14:50
		Re: What license Ultimate++ should use? Tell us!!! By: captainc on Thu, 21 August 2008 16:29
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		Re: What license Ultimate++ should use? Tell us!!! By: amrein on Thu, 21 August 2008 17:23
		Re: What license Ultimate++ should use? Tell us!!! By: gprentice on Fri, 22 August 2008 04:59
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		Re: What license Ultimate++ should use? Tell us!!! By: gprentice on Fri, 22 August 2008 13:52
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		Re: What license Ultimate++ should use? Tell us!!! By: amrein on Fri, 26 September 2008 21:11
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